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apopapo 2 days ago

They will become pariahs financially speaking. Nobody will be authorized to wire money to/from them. It's brutal.

mdp2021 a day ago | parent [-]

> Nobody

In the USA - the consequences should be only related to USA pertinent actors. The newspapers in Italy say, "there is no judgement against them in Italy".

Nemo_bis 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Italian banks immediately apply US sanctions because they are scared they'd be cut off SWIFT. Banca Etica, A/I's bank, previously refused to open a bank account to Francesca Albanese. https://www.bancaetica.it/banca-etica-chiede-alle-istituzion...

cloudie78 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The same mechanism that was used to sanction Russia, Iran - will be used to sanction A/I Collective.

polski-g a day ago | parent | prev [-]

If Italy doesn't shut down their services, the Italy itself will be shut out of SWIFT.

2legit2quit a day ago | parent | next [-]

>...then* Italy itself will be shut out of SWIFT.

SWIFT is headquartered in Belgium. Only 2 banks out of the total 24 on the board of directors is US banks. Unless there's a hostile takeover of the SWIFT organisation by the US, I think this is a bit of a stretch. (Plot-twist: Italy is on the board of directors.)

polski-g a day ago | parent [-]

SWIFT abides by international law and local laws. Including those against processing money transfer requests for terrorist organizations like A/I.

marcosdumay 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

SWIFT refused to shunt out the Brazilian banks that kept providing services to the public figures involved on the Bolsonaro trial last year.

polski-g 11 hours ago | parent [-]

"Brazilian banks" were never classified as Foreign Terrorist Organizations. It is a specific designation and law that comes with 20 year prison sentences.

marcosdumay 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you expecting Italian banks to be classified as terrorist organizations?

polski-g 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If they continue to transfer money for FTOs, yes they would be.

inigyou 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. And SWIFT.

2legit2quit a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> SWIFT abides by international law and local laws. Including those against processing money transfer requests for terrorist organizations like A/I.

A US sanction is neither a local (to all of SWIFT) or international law. The question still stands.

mdp2021 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Italy itself will be

Because of a decision from the USA administration? ?!

inigyou 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. It's the same mechanism that was used against Russia and Iran.

epolanski 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I doubt this is how it works, besides, swift is an international organization, not a US one.

US laws and sentences does not apply beyond US borders unless differently agreed.