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piker 9 hours ago

> It has no basis in reality.

It has some basis, perhaps consider:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%93...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_North_Korean_famine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derg

api 9 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s totalitarian communism. Parent is talking about social democracy with a larger safety net. I’m not aware of gulags in the Netherlands or Sweden but maybe I haven’t looked hard enough.

I was just in here a while ago calling leftist class war stuff conspiracism BTW, so I’m equal opportunity.

Just so much bullshit everywhere. We’d have a much better discourse if words meant things and if we could toss the hyperbole and the conspiracy theories from all sides.

piker 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I agree, and I am also a centrist, but to say “socialism bad” has “no basis in reality” is wrong.