This is true, and, relatedly, is the feeling I have about all of climate change. By the numbers, it won't be close.

Of course, this little preview is itself anthropogenic. This horrific disaster is the thinnest tendril of the monster we have unleashed.

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kulahan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Both figuratively and literally, this experience was the tip of the iceberg. Terrifying. People might think I'm crazy, but I'm choosing my retirement location 100% based on resistance to climate change. Local water, too much humidity for massive fires, too cold for insane heatwaves... you get it.

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UncleOxidant an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I've seen recommendations for locations near the Great Lakes. Upper peninsula of MI, for example. Plenty of water. A warming climate should actually make the winters there somewhat less harsh.

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abrowne 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Wildfire smoke will be the big question there. It's started to be bad for a week or two a year in Minneapolis, and is only worse the closer you are to the boreal forest.

	▲	SoftTalker 9 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Wildfires only a problem until the overgrowth is burned off. When there's not enough to sustain a large starting fire, they will stop happening.
	▲	testing22321 8 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		And the failure of basic services like water and power. Given it took FEMA ten days to get power restored to the super dome, how long will responses be when there are many simultaneous disasters of that size or bigger? With the current admin the answer could be “indefinite”

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ferguess_k 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Which places have you found? I'm in Canada and figured most of the places are going to suffer more rain falling in the next decades.

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blondie9x 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly there is no safe haven while humans over-consume continue to waste in the chase of excess. We have seen in the last few years all the supposed climate safe areas get hit hard.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/09/nx-s1-5137024/climate-haven-h...

	▲	IG_Semmelweiss 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		birth rates are falling off the cliff in all developed nations, most are below replacement rate already

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sandeepkd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I do not know if I would consider stopping the climate change as a solution for all such events.

Watching the video makes you realize how small you are in front of the nature. It feels painful to even watch it but its an eyeopener at the same time. Its a misconception to think that the climate would always remain same, nature is an constantly moving/changing entity. What might be perceived as destruction is also the mechanism how creation of life or life like conditions happened in the first place. Just makes me feel like appreciating the day even more.

	▲	FireBeyond 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Mt St Helens erupted in 1980. The landslide alone was 3.3 billion cubic yards, that traveled 15mi at speeds of up to 155mph, and buried 23 square miles to an average depth of 150ft, and up to 600ft, within 10 minutes. The blast flattened 230 sq mi of forest in minutes. 540 million tons of ash fell in 9 hours, affecting 22,000 sq mi. The mudflow (lahar) was this debris mixing with 170 million cubic yards of glacial ice and snow, moving at 80 mph. People liked to make smart ass comments about people who took photos "and would soon be dead" - "they were miles away, they could have left". For a lot of them? No. The sheer magnitude of these events is truly unimaginable, even if you "were there" (nearby). And MSH was barely a 5 on the VEI 0-8 (roughly) logarithmic scale, though you can't map to death toll easily. Pinatubo in 1991 was a high 6. Krakatoa too. Tambora is the largest we know, in 1815, VEI 7, and is estimated at eighty times more output than MSH, and triggered the "Year Without a Summer" globally (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer) that pulled down average -global- temperatures by a full degree over the course of a year. It completely disrupted the monsoon season throughout Asia, leading to flash flooding events like this becoming a very regular occurrence. I think some of these types of stats are the closest terrestrial things we have at the limits of human comprehensibility (probably only eclipsed by "interstellar distances").