| ▲ | spockz 7 hours ago |
| Maybe the only thing more worrisome than microplastics everywhere is unstoppable plastics eating organisms everywhere, eating through all plastics everywhere. |
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| ▲ | ch4s3 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Usually these bioengineered yeasts need pretty specific growth conditions in order to eat in this case ethylene glycol, not raw finished plastic. In this case they say "plastic-derived substrates" which means they're pre-processing the waste plastic. |
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| ▲ | golem14 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | >Usually these bioengineered yeasts need pretty specific growth conditions in order to eat Until, say, they mutate independently. Now, I have no idea how likely that is, but I think the fear is not baseless. There's a fun SF book, "Directive 51", which explores this a bit. Not a bad book to cuddle up with. | |
| ▲ | cortesoft 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Good thing microorganisms are famous for their slow rate of change in dynamic environments… | | |
| ▲ | ch4s3 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not sure what this adds. The yeast here is chomping ethylene glycol for carbon, and tons of soil bacteria can already do that. And I should add that highly specialized industrial/lab yeasts have existed for a long time and aren't prevalent in the environment, they just don't like to grow outside of narrow(ish) conditions. Highly prevalent wild yeasts tend to eat a variety of sugars, not glycol. | | |
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| ▲ | tantalor 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Of course, the lysine contingency. | |
| ▲ | shevy-java 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > bioengineered yeasts need pretty specific growth conditions In a natural environment this will not hold. Organisms are unstable; they change all the time, simpler ones even more so. Mutants with a faster growth rate will, up to a certain maximum, take over from slower growing or growth-deficient mutants. There isn't really a compelling growth advantage for plastic-degrading organisms, which is one reason why plastic stays so long in the environment. All pre-processing steps further add to the cost, so we will year after year hear about it - and then wonder why nothing happens and plastics keep compounding in the ocean. And this is not new either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_v._Chakrabarty | | |
| ▲ | bryanrasmussen 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >In a natural environment this will not hold. Organisms are unstable; they change all the time, simpler ones even more so. Jurassic narratives notwithstanding, unsure if this is a real problem. If you have a yeast that will only survive under narrow unnatural circumstances, I would expect freeing it into the wild with natural circumstances means it dies - not uses nature to find a way to destroy the world as a form of poetic justice for ever having been created. |
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| ▲ | ryanisnan 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Reminds me of the Taumoeba escaping the Xenonite enclosures. |
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| ▲ | fc417fc802 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Perhaps soon you'll be needing to apply stains or sealants to your outdoor plastic items. Maybe even purchase treated plastic products that we worry leach toxic chemicals into their surroundings. |
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| ▲ | masklinn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Timescale is the important bit. If organisms degrade plastics in a few hundred years then what plastics are uniquely valuable for will be quite fine indeed. |
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| ▲ | simmerup 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why is that worrisome? Might give the fish a chance whose bellies are filling up with plastic rubbish |
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| ▲ | serf 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | for all the reasons in the book/movie/television show 'The Andromeda Strain'. |
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| ▲ | piloto_ciego 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There’s a fantastically silly but fun book about this the name of which eludes me. |
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| ▲ | righthand 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Such as in The Andromeda Strain? |
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| ▲ | weaksauce 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| there was a time in history before fungus came along and ate trees so there were just a huge amount of trees around that couldn't decay. (which is why we have coal actually) this could be something akin to that. |
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| ▲ | patwolf 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've heard that the prevailing theory now is that it wasn't the lack of fungus that made coal. Instead, the earth was covered in tropical wetlands, and trees couldn't decay in the anoxic water. |
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