Assuming this is a serious question: There are people who are not themselves fascists who object to the direct action tactics (read: violence, vandalism) sometimes employed under the banner of "antifa."

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MSFT_Edging 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's always curious to me how property damage weighs the same or worse than violence against real humans.

I've had people tell me with a straight face that broken windows make one group just as bad as the group threatening violence based on ethnic lines. I don't get it.

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SpicyLemonZest 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If someone were to come to my workplace and smash a window, for example, I think it's pretty fair to interpret that as a threat that they might smash the people working there next.

	▲	inigyou 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		do you think someone who sprays paint in a military jet engine is about to force open your mouth and spray you full of paint?

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8note a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

itll make more sense if you consider that the right wing has been selling the idea that there is only one fredom/right - property ownership under capitalism

and with that hayek setup, the property isore important than the life. you can be tortured, imprisoned and murdered, but as long as you still own a factory, you are a free man.

its silly, buts its the driving idea behind western culture for the past 40-50 years or so

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meta_gunslinger 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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MSFT_Edging 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The Weather Underground committed over a dozen bombings back in the day and the only deaths were WU members from a failed explosive. The wikipedia page has a table of right-wing terror attacks while the page for left-wing terror mostly describes guerilla groups in civil wars.

Generally no, Antifa is not a violent organization in the same way that violent white-nationalist/neonazi groups are violent.

Antifa hasn't shot up a church/synagogue/mosque. Followers of modern fascist sects have.

You're either willfully ignorant or purposefully biased to consider them on the same playing field.

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47282847 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

“Antifa has…” is like saying “Nerds have” or “Hackers have”. It is really only a broad label, either assigned by one self or by others. I know people who are strictly against any violence and still proud to use Antifa “branding”. Others wouldn’t want to be called Antifa but are called that by others.

You are a HN user. Saying “HN users have enacted physical violence” and implying it is all of them is just utter bs.

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meta_gunslinger 2 days ago | parent [-]

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	▲	orwin 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Fascists are just against the rule of law. They designed a multi tiered system where they have more rights than the one they judge inferior. An antifascist is someone who fights against fascists, either violently or, more often, through documenting of fascist groups, taking pictures and counter protesting.

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__MatrixMan__ 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

These people are easy to find. Listen for people who are acting like a hero because they boycott Amazon or some other with-your-wallet kind of activism, and suggest nonviolent sabotage. They clutch their pearls so hard, each becomes a tiny neutron star, and you can then triangulate their position in real space based on the gravitational waves from those collapses.