| ▲ | shikck200 4 hours ago |
| Who TF wants to use Twitter? Its the worst echo chamber out there. |
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| ▲ | philipallstar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Who TF wants to use Twitter? Its the worst echo chamber out there. It's certainly more diverse than Bluesky, if this is an echo chamber-measuring contest. |
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| ▲ | Gareth321 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's crazy to see the same people accusing X of being an echo-chamber suggesting Bluesky without a hint of irony or interospection. | |
| ▲ | tonyhart7 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >>Who TF wants to use Twitter? Its the worst echo chamber out there. >>then proceed to use bluesky lmao |
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| ▲ | strus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sir, you are controlling the buttons you push. I.e. it's up to you who you follow and what exactly you read on Twitter - just like any other social network. There are news that are circulating much faster on Twitter than anywhere else (for example about war in Ukraine). There are people and companies that post only on Twitter and nowhere else (especially in tech). |
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| ▲ | vvillena 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > it's up to you who you follow and what exactly you read on Twitter The Twitter experience is a highly algorithmic feed where tweets from the people you follow are not guaranteed to be in chronological order, or even shown to you at all. The default experience also mixes it other tweets "you might be interested in", that is, things they want you to see. There's also the fact people could freely see tweets and follow discussion threads, that's now locked behind an account requirement. | | |
| ▲ | tome an hour ago | parent [-] | | > The Twitter experience is a highly algorithmic feed ... that is, things they want you to see. Not on Nitter! Which is the point, for me at least. |
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| ▲ | dadoum 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A half of Twitter's point for me was the trending section, that you don't have any control on now (you used to be able to disable the personalization of that section but since X you cannot, if you want the actual trends you need to go in a subsection). The whole section is full personalized ragebaits (because at some point I used to reply to those), now it just makes the experience of trends quite unbearable and I can't change that. | | |
| ▲ | jandrese an hour ago | parent [-] | | Even if you tried to ignore ragebait the X algorithm is going to prioritize them because it is highly tuned to promote high engagement content. Any given feed is going to have white supremacy, flat Earth, climate change denial, immigrant hate, vaccine harms, and of course Elon shilling for his AI products. |
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| ▲ | vintermann an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm pretty sure the Ukraine war news on Twitter are mostly what's bubbled up from less accessible forums (like Telegram channels). This site is a good alternative for tech news. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere an hour ago | parent [-] | | A number of decent news accounts cross post on Twitter. I wish they would pick a platform other than Telegram or Twitter but it is what it is. A lot of non-Western accounts were recently demonetized so maybe they will move elsewhere. Although the best ones don’t seem to be doing it for money, they usually have some personal grudge. |
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| ▲ | OroPla an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Twitter doesn't really work without an account. Projects like Nitter solved that. Especially annoying when Twitter is a source for something. | |
| ▲ | angoragoats 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sir, you are voluntarily using a website owned by an unstable Nazi, who purchased it because his feelings were hurt and people were making fun of him there. Now his brain droppings make it into everyone’s feed by default, from what I understand. > There are news that are circulating much faster on Twitter than anywhere else (for example about war in Ukraine). I am certain that Twitter is not the only place where you can find these updates, if you really care for up-to-the-minute news. But I don’t. > There are people and companies that post only on Twitter and nowhere else (especially in tech). These people and companies are (knowingly or unknowingly) supporting a Nazi billionaire and they are not worth paying any attention to until they change their behavior. | | |
| ▲ | baxuz 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's incredible how this comment is downvoted for stating facts | | |
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| ▲ | phoghed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Reddit is worse imo just because of how the site is structured and the power of mods. |
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| ▲ | Yizahi an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Default Reddit mainpage is strictly what you subscribe to. And from a tech point of view, Reddit has old. CSS, it has tree style comments with sorting and collapsing, it has no dumb character limits, and on big screens it properly fills the screen with content instead of dumb emptiness or fluff or just infogarbage (do people remember that hashtags are literally just a useless character dumps, born out of the limitations of the SMS tech). So no, Reddit is not worse than Xitter both on social and tech merit. | |
| ▲ | philipallstar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes - community notes were a surprisingly decent alternative to more gameable authority structures. | | | |
| ▲ | vintermann an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Reddit voted itself out of my attention by requiring login for old.reddit.com browsing. | | | |
| ▲ | angoragoats 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Option A: You occasionally encounter power tripping mods on a site where you are free to create your own community and become the mod yourself. Option B: a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire owns the entire site and can change the site behavior for every user on a whim, with no recourse. This doesn’t seem like a hard choice to make. | | |
| ▲ | phoghed an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | An echo chamber isn’t inherently bad, and moderation is required to maintain any semblance of a well functioning online community. Reddit can be good if you stay in your niche and off the default subs. Twitter is good if you similarly curate your experience and don’t let it push you into garbage. I don’t use either much anymore. | |
| ▲ | dist-epoch an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > a power tripping drug-addled Nazi billionaire Are you anti-drugs? Do you think drug users are bad people or using drugs is condemnable? I'm asking because anti-fascists are typically pro-drugs. So I'm confused. | | |
| ▲ | vintermann an hour ago | parent [-] | | Were you on drugs when you wrote that post? You don't think drug users are bad people, so surely that's just a neutral question... Or maybe there are times where drug use can still be a problem, whether it makes people bad people or not. Don't drink and drive. Don't do drugs and buy media companies. | | |
| ▲ | dist-epoch an hour ago | parent [-] | | I don't see any qualification on parent post, only saying Musk is bad because he's using drugs. But you are right, so you agree that frequent drug users should not be offered jobs with responsibilities because for example they might drug and drive. |
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| ▲ | sliqqq an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Everybody who's not totally limited in their mindsets. Twitter/X is uncensored. I think open minds who are hungry for the raw, real truth prefer such platform, rather than one that's regulated by one political party of one particular country. |
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| ▲ | jubilanti an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If X is so open, why do I have to register an account to see practically anything? Why are they banning mirrors? If an open source project banned mirroring, there'd be an outrage. Why did Elon ban PaulG and many for posting a link to Mastodon? Why did so many get suspended for sharing the location of Elon's private jet? Why did Elon ban a journalist after reporting a dossier on JD Vance? https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-dossier-leak-hack-iran-ken... Why did Elon ban a journalist who interviewed the guy who hacked a conservative activist? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/04/twitter-suspende... Why did Elon ban a journalist for reporting on Tesla? https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/15/23512158/elon-musk-twi... | |
| ▲ | teiferer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It doesn't become more true if you claim that multiple times around here. X under Musk is well documented to censor widely. It's just that the direction of censorship has shifted under him, so your particular bubble might get more left alone now. > hungry for the raw, real truth Haha sure. Why not go to the original where Tweets are actually literally called Truths? | |
| ▲ | mathw an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 1) it absolutely isn't "uncensored" 2) absolute freedom to post whatever you like and have it shoved in people's faces by the algorithm is harmful 3) usually when people are "hungry for the raw, real truth" they're actually chasing a bunch of conspiracy theories | |
| ▲ | kova12 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It is censored |
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| ▲ | iamnothere an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The point of services like this are to access the content without actually using the service and feeding them data for ads. If you aren’t a polyglot, the only ways to follow news about global conflicts and non-Western politics are Twitter or Telegram. Pick your poison. |
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| ▲ | haunter 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Unbeatable (just like reddit) if you want live sport replays. /r/soccer uploads goals before it happens on the broadcast I watch on my TV Also the Asian community (Korea, Japan etc) is incredibly strong on Twitter. They don't really care about the whole politics around the platform. |
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| ▲ | docdeek 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There’s likely some information on there that some people must want to share if services like Xcancel and Nitter exist and allow you to share it without being on X itself. |
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| ▲ | expedition32 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | There are unfortunately a few times a year that I need to read something posted on Instagram, Facebook or X. And they all require accounts that I don't want to have. |
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| ▲ | HarlequinHair 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| General sentiment might be this, but every social network (even Instagram and Facebook) can be good and productive if you change how you use them. If you follow specific profiles/channels/pages and just read the feeds from them as if they were news, you are removing the toxic part (mostly infinite scrolling) and getting a resourceful feature. If for some reason someone you need to follow is on X (twitter) only, you have to choose between losing a source or compromise with the platform. I personally belong to the former group (and possibly you do, too), leaving behind sources, but not everyone likes it that way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| ▲ | vvillena 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The platform compromise is a new thing. One of the reasons people used Twitter was its open nature, enabling its use as a bulletin board where anyone could post a message and being sure that the message link was free for anyone to see. This isn't the case anymore, as X forces people to make accounts to see messages. | |
| ▲ | spiderfarmer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > you have to choose between losing a source or compromise with the platform I thought so too. But after leaving 3 years ago it turns out: Not a single source is that important. Also, as the importance increases, the likelihood of seeing the same information outside that hellhole increases linearly. | |
| ▲ | an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | secretsatan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But it’s still supporting a man who’s a toxic as they come and working hard to distort reality and undermine democracy, you won’t wash that toxic off. | | |
| ▲ | philipallstar 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Allowing more voices on the platform might've made it more toxic (who knows - you're not the judge of toxic) but at least we have left- and right-wing toxicity, instead of only left-wing. And we get a lot of additional non-toxic voices, which was the actual point. | | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Allowing more voices on the platform might've made it more toxic (who knows - you're not the judge of toxic) Allowing the nazi voices definitely did. And while that dude isn't the judge of what is toxic, a majority of people are. I don't know what you personally want to call it when someone posts condolences about a tragedy or massacre killing many people in their home country, and the nazis pop up to reply "you're next, [racial slur omitted]". Pretty sure most people would call that toxic, so it's toxic, even if a small minority of people disagree. | |
| ▲ | secretsatan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You think there wasn’t right wing toxicity before? | | | |
| ▲ | angoragoats 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | alexnewman 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| And hacker news is a diverse pluralistic utopia |
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| ▲ | VCFundedGenYer 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I thought "reddit moments" were bad, I never thought there'd be something worse. | |
| ▲ | spiderfarmer 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Whataboutisms do nothing to refute genuine criticisms. | | |
| ▲ | phoghed 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If someone thinks Twitter is an echo chamber to the extent they can’t fathom how people tolerate it (and it isn’t just an appeal for easy upvotes), but they happily post on HN, they’ll be able to clear up their initial confusion with a bit of self reflection. | | | |
| ▲ | mieses 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | what about throwing stones in glass houses now? |
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| ▲ | Tepix 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some AI bros refuse to leave |
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| ▲ | spiderfarmer 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | If someone is still on twitter I'm just going to assume their morals align with those of Musk. And then I avoid them. | | |
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| ▲ | majorchord 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Hundreds of millions of active daily users. Snobby tech nerds who care about privacy and morals are a niche of a niche, relatively speaking. |