| ▲ | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis(artificialanalysis.ai) |
| 15 points by theanonymousone 13 hours ago | 7 comments |
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| ▲ | vblanco 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Insane scores for a model of this size. But it does seem to be a rather insane over-thinker with the biggest token use of any model, which combined with 256k context size it means it wont do much before filling it context |
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| ▲ | data-ottawa 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It’s definitely a heavy thinker, like most Qwens. I see strings like “write, now.” In the thinning traces then it goes on to think for a lot longer, so it’s kind of weird. I haven’t figured out hope to use this effectively yet on my strix halo. | |
| ▲ | spwa4 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | We don't actually know how much thinking GPT and Opus do, the labs won't show us anymore. And they certainly take their time before starting to answer. |
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| ▲ | kasperni 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Maybe a bit of context for this post? Some people have a life outside of AI. |
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| ▲ | toshinoriyagi 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This model is a preview of Qwen's upcoming Qwen4 architecture. It is a 125B-A6B MoE model, meaning it has 125B total parameters with 6B active at a time, but it also has a 51B parameter engram with it. The engram is basically a lookup table for tokens to my understanding. It allows the model to have access to a much larger amount of info if utilized well. They said the model is intentionally under-trained since it is mainly for R&D purposes of proving the new architecture. Many people are excited for models in this range as they are a step above the common ~27B models, while not requiring exorbitant sums of money to run like much larger models. | |
| ▲ | glimshe 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I got downvoted yesterday for complaining about the name/brand confusion from all these Chinese models with similar names all claiming they are the best. While I'm an AI enthusiast, it's being hard to keep track. | |
| ▲ | poincareball 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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