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| ▲ | cbolton 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | It's John Nagle as in Nagle's algorithm, I'm sure he has an existing intellect. | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Heh. We are now at the point where people might end up deliberately inserting typos and bad grandma into their writing, just to signal they aren’t AI. I mentioned once, that one of the reasons that AI sounds the way it does, is because it learned from us. That didn’t seem to be a popular point. | | |
| ▲ | Izkata 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Because it's only half true. Yeah we've used phrases like those before, but if you ignore certain very specific phrases or characters for a moment, a lot of the more ambiguous things people are identifying as AI-speak comes from mixing jargon from different domains in a way humans normally don't do. Like the short punchy sentences are from marketing, not comments or technical writing like they've started showing up in. | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-] | | So John Nagle is an AI. Huh. Never would have guessed it, in a million years... To be fair, "Famous person accused of being an AI," was on my bingo card. It was inevitable for this kind of embarrassing mistake to happen. | | |
| ▲ | Izkata 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Or at least he's being unintentionally influenced by it. Just out of curiosity I jumped a few years back in his comments looking for that pattern, and I don't really see it. By pure luck I even landed on a comment that uses that same word with a similar sentiment, except back then he wrote it as a full non-punchy sentence: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31414288 | | |
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| ▲ | noir_lord 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Heh. We are now at the point where people might end up deliberately inserting typos and bad grandma into their writing, just to signal they aren’t AI. Except what humans write will continue to be fodder for the LLM's so they'll "learn" that at some point. The Anti-Turing Test - Prove you aren't AI becoming a thing is very... well Black Mirror. | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Yep. And I guarantee that people are probably already instructing their agents to have random typos. | | |
| ▲ | noir_lord 2 days ago | parent [-] | | It's been weird to see the face of a bunch of youtubers I've followed for years without any idea what they look like (mostly history/military history/engineering type stuff), it used to be video/photo's/diagrams with them providing a voice over but because of the sheer quantity of absolute shite/slop mirroring that style they've started appearing on camera as quick "proof of not AI" check. For that type of content YT is essentially completely ruined if you didn't already follow the good ones because finding them in the absolute sea of dross has become way more difficult. | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-] | | A friend showed me a video, put out by a local news organization, that started with an attractive woman, standing in the place being discussed, speaking into a microphone. Cool. Standard local interest story. Then, it cut to a photo montage, with “her” voice, continuing the story. Except it was AI. It wasn’t especially successful. You could hear the “tics” from the AI. |
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| ▲ | shuwix a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Typos and bad grandma ... awesome. |
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| ▲ | strbean 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I got Italian last night and their drunk linguinist made me spaghetti instead of linguini. | | |
| ▲ | internet_points 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Thank you for showing me how to use that bigram in context. But the question remains, how does a drunk linguinist speak? | | |
| ▲ | strbean 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Much more eloquently than a drunk buccatinist, that's for sure! |
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| ▲ | TeMPOraL 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure they do. I speak like this. Many others too. Evidence is in historical record. At this point it's super annoying for me to have my "AI wrote this" alarm trigger at my own language, as I'm writing... | | |
| ▲ | shuwix 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Then don't try to look smarter than you're actually are. Random Internet people are not impressed. | | |
| ▲ | TeMPOraL a day ago | parent [-] | | My fake internet points say otherwise. | | |
| ▲ | shuwix a day ago | parent [-] | | Internet points are very important if that's all you've got. Otherwise, they mean nothing. |
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| ▲ | ncruces 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Wasting your latin trying to impress others with nothingness causes the same revulsion, human or AI. Previously, most people would save their effort for things that actually mattered. Take away the effort and this is what you get. | | |
| ▲ | dgellow 2 days ago | parent [-] | | It’s not about trying to impress others | | |
| ▲ | ncruces 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Oh, but it is. It's long READMEs with 3 punchlines per paragraph for a project best described has "I found these 4 thingies, all of them had compromises, so I told Claude: merge the 4, no compromises!" And every issue, every PR you open, about every small improvement or new feature, is the same. | | | |
| ▲ | shuwix 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Dumb people want to impress by using words others might not understand. Smart people want others to understand them. In early days of Internet, it was a domain of smart people.
And native English speakers have no problem communicating with people from Ex-Comecon countries with vey little English knowledge. |
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