| ▲ | dmitrygr 5 hours ago |
| > but at the rate that Intel and AMD have been catching up on power efficiency Have they? What AMD or Intel laptop with Linux on it can hold a candle to and M4 air or an M4max pro? Genuinely curious, cause I found none... |
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| ▲ | Mashimo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Framework 13 pro with new Intel chips claims to run 20h of 4k Netflix stream, or 17h of light web browsing @250 nits. That said these numbers are with windows. |
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| ▲ | Lio 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | So the hardware is capable but the Linux distros aren’t quite there yet? Fingers crossed for them then. I love the idea of a Framework laptop but I’m only interested in Linux performance. | | |
| ▲ | Mashimo an hour ago | parent [-] | | > but the Linux distros aren’t quite there yet? I just went by what Framework said on release a few weeks or month back. Maybe you can find a more up to date Linux test somewhere. And I bet you can soon get a ThinkPad with the same intel chip, that should have similar battery life. |
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| ▲ | jaimex2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No idea but my Framework 12 goes for days without charging. I really haven't seen any real world need for M chips. Granted Im not compiling large projects on a train all day but who is. |
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| ▲ | finaard an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The main power advantage of the apple chips is when the system is mostly idle - under mid to high load power to watt has been comparable for a few years already (at least AMD and Apple, intel was way behind - but I guess they caught up recently). The main reason behind my M3 MBP back then wasn't so much power efficiency - but that I can get it with 96GB of RAM. It's nice that I can go a full office day without charging - the previous x86 notebook couldn't, but a decent one from the M3 generation probably could as well. But also if I put proper load an that thing the Macbook battery is done in less than 2 hours. | |
| ▲ | zakisaad 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | raises hand, but point taken when painting with broad strokes | |
| ▲ | porridgeraisin an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Framework 12 ... days without charging I don't see how? it is a 50Wh battery. Even at 6W that is about 8h of usage? On what OS + workload on x86 are you seeing just 6W usage? Or is it that each day your usage is only 2 hours? | | |
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| ▲ | oblio 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| AMD Strix Halo? |
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| ▲ | dmitrygr 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | "up to 9 hours for light web browsing or everyday tasks" that is 1/3 the battery life of a macbook in the same use case. seems completely incomparable | | |
| ▲ | darkwater an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I have a M1 Pro from work and it surely won't last that while working. Throw some video calls at it and working outside (so, screen at the brightest level) and at the end of the work day I have to plug it in | |
| ▲ | prmoustache an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Who works 27h straight far away from a power or usb outlet? | | |
| ▲ | pmontra an hour ago | parent [-] | | Probably nobody and I remember when a phone battery lasted one week: nevertheless sometimes we forgot to charge and we run out of battery. So a long lasting battery is good, too long lasting is a waste, which maybe it's your point. However nowadays it could mean running some agents all day long (remote models) and plug in to power only at the end of the day. |
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