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rjzzleep 13 hours ago

I'm puzzled by the reactions. This is not a good thing. Yes, they're releasing more open source code and models, but they do it BECAUSE OF pressure from the community and other open source projects.

But Nvidia is a terrible open source and consumer company. They gatekeep a lot and oftentimes it's only open source in name. Outside contributions are often slow-walked or rejected if they don't align with business incentives , and leadership is retained 100% in a couple of people from a certain country.

RachelF 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Linus Torvalds: 'Nvidia has been the single worst company we've ever dealt with'

His other comments on Nvidia often contain expletives.

jacquesm 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Linus isn't wrong but at the same time NV has shipped more compute than AMD and Intel combined to consumers. The kind of performance I get out of a modest outlay never ceases to amaze me.

nik282000 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Sales volume has no correlation with how good a company is for an ecosystem. See Microsoft, Adobe, Apple, Sony, and so on.

jacquesm 11 hours ago | parent [-]

NV is a very different beast from all of those. I have yet to regret buying any of their products and I wouldn't touch your list with a stolen 10' pole.

bigyabai 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In fairness, most of those comments were made before Nvidia capitulated in the EGLStream war and released open kernel modules.

sfblah 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't it super easy for the community to just replace HuggingFace? Isn't it pretty much just a repo/index for open-weight models? Why is it even worth anything?

dragonwriter 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Isn't it pretty much just a repo/index for open-weight models?

No, its not just a repo/index (they also have training, inference hosting, and they develop/maintain a bunch of core AI infrastructure software), and even if it was just a repo/index, replacing a bug centralized repo/index that used by an large community isn’t trivial.

zapzupnz 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not just a repo/index but they also offer reasonably-priced compute, with a free tier not to sniff at, on which to run the models.

esseph 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Network effects. It's like a social network for LLM nerds as well as hosting and rating models, etc.

keyle 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It also means that finding models that aren't "approved" will be dealt by other websites.

fhe 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

good or bad, it comes down to a financial decision. Nvidia was willing to offer the highest bidding price, and HF was willing to sell.