People aren't simply interchangeable units of economic output, and when they live together for long periods of time they develop unique and distinct cultures that are dear to them. Letting the entirety of the world into your country without stops is cultural suicide. If you put any a value in preserving culture you will find it ethical to put some limit on immigration. Assimilation is possible but there is a limit to the rate and amount of foreigners a place can absorb before changing significantly.

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niek_pas 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

'Cultures' have never been units of 'insiders' isolated from 'outsiders'. Cultural change is inevitable and there is no reason assume 'changing significantly' is inherently bad. That's what history _is_.

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Razengan 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Letting the entirety of the world into your country without stops is cultural suicide.

The natives of the Americas, Australia, and the many nations previously colonized by European countries, know that better than any descendants of the colonizers.

Did they get to have any say?

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green_wheel 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes that is a great example. You certainly don't want what happened to them happening to you.

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Razengan 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah that's a great example of hypocrisy

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green_wheel 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No one actually thinks this is hypocrisy. No one is giving up their houses to Native Americans. They do an land acknowledgement and call it even. Even the most liberal among us don't feel it's necessary to sacrifice any meaningful amount of their own comfort to right some past wrongs.

	▲	paulryanrogers an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Land acknowledgement where the most ancient natives get the most marginal and inhospitable land. Plenty of people think it's hypocrisy and are willing to collectively sacrifice to right the many, many wrongs.

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tayo42 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's no real Us culture to preserve.

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green_wheel 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US is too large to have one monolithic culture but it certainly contains many subcultures on the regional level. I won't dispute they're on the decline though.

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unselect5917 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>There's no real Us culture to preserve.

Fish Fails to Detect Water

The easiest way to see it is look at Japanese portrayals (outsider perspective). Cowboys, horses, guns, pride in our military and our free speech, fireworks and BBQs.

Just because you look down on the culture doesn't mean there isn't one.

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tayo42 7 hours ago | parent [-]

That's one subset of Americans and not representative of all.

NYC and Los Angeles are the biggest cultural exporting centers in the US and have none of that.

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account42 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

LA has a lot of that actually. Simulated and on screen, but that's what they export.

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unselect5917 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Big cities are indistinguishable from other big cities in other countries. All big cities mostly have the same culture. That's why I liked the Japanese perspective on us. They saw cool things that they liked and included in their fiction that contained us.

If you want to experience American culture I recommend https://www.youtube.com/@PeterSantenello

America doesn't have one culture. It has 500 cultures. But the ones that other cultures notice are the ones I listed. Cities literally stink.

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