It took over a century to go from Oliver Twist to the broad Post-WWII Middle Class. How long this time?

Why do you think there's a law that will make it happen again? A large, empowered middle class is a historical anomaly, not a law of nature.

The question is, if we're going to erase that anomaly, what can you do to be among the winners?

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unrented7977 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Spot the American.

The sensible and moral action is to ensure that nobody loses instead of "got mine fuck you"

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a2ff6eeb0 a day ago | parent [-]

If you think you've got the leverage, give it a shot.

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unified101 a day ago | parent [-]

Ethical behavior only when you have leverage is for a hollow personality.

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a2ff6eeb0 a day ago | parent [-]

What are you doing about the problem?

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unified101 21 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm opposing viewpoints that say might makes right.

	▲	bewareofscams 14 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I am all in support of that opposition, but then it also gives to "then be crushed with might".
	▲	a2ff6eeb0 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		How? (shitposting on the internet ain't it)

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happytoexplain a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every good thing society has accomplished is a "historical anomaly", by definition. History is very large, and very miserable.

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michael_michael a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To quote David Graeber by way of "Can't Get You Out of My Head": The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something that we make, and could just as easily make differently.

If the elite class decides they are going to checkmate all others, winner take all, the smartest play is probably to flip the table.

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jdjejdijene a day ago | parent | prev [-]

[dead]

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oblio a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, Einstein assumed WW4 would be fought with rocks so this cycle might take a bit longer.

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georgemcbay a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> It took over a century to go from Oliver Twist to the broad Post-WWII Middle Class. How long this time?

It may be optimistic to assume any path even exists this time (or at least that any path exists without violent revolution).

I won't pretend to know what will actually happen in the future, but the long road from Oliver Twist to middle class prosperity was paved in large part by labor realizing they have collective bargaining power and wielding that as a weapon to slowly forge a seat at the table. That weapon goes away in a world where a majority of people no longer have any individual labor power to collectivize.

	▲	the8472 a day ago \| parent [-]
		It does not stop at negotiation power, if your economic value is epsilon above zero, what do you have to offer to exchange for food calories? I'm already seeing things being assessed on a Joules/Token basis.