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BizarroLand a day ago

Exactly. It is reasonable to believe that AGI will never be built on unchanging data, no matter how many times you iterate over it.

Computers can and probably do already contain essentially all human knowledge, but without a continuous wave of new data to process and respond to then that surfer known as sentience will never have a wave to ride.

Think of the comparisons to human minds. We are constantly assaulted with sight, sound, smell, temperature, gravity, proprioception (the sense of our own bodies in 3 dimensional space), touch, and all of our dozens of other, lesser known senses. We have constant new data input to process in real time and our consciousness sits atop that maelstrom a lonely king.

Further, our brain is a marvel of multiple lobes communicating with each other in a frenzy of bioelectricity, and duplicated, and interconnected amongst the duplication, and our consciousness emerges somewhere in the static to make something conceptually tangible.

I think LLMs and the technology is fascinating, but it is constructed on unchanging data. Maybe it blips close to consciousness from time to time, but I bet they are no closer to achieving AGI than they were to creating positive power fusion energy from Philo Farnsworth's fusor.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but that's how I see things for now.

mdp2021 a day ago | parent [-]

It is not a matter of sentience or consciousness - that is unrelated to this meaning of Intelligence (for AGI - "solving problems well"). It is that Intelligence implies continuous reflection, which brings continuous refinement of the set of ideas (of judgements) - which requires a dynamic DB.