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| ▲ | rwyinuse a day ago | parent [-] | | If you inhale the smoke, it's quite irrelevant whether smoking an industrial cigarette, pipe or a hand-crafted cigar without additives. You'll probably get lung cancer anyway if you continue it long enough. Smoke is always carcinogenic. I don't really get the point when there are many ways of getting nicotine without the smoke. | | |
| ▲ | compass_copium a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You're not wrong about smoke always being bad--there's a reason American Spirits have to have a disclaimer about "additive-free" not meaning healthier. Tobacco takes up alpha emitters from the soil and leaves them in your body--never good. Pipe and cigar smokers are much less likely to smoke a pack's worth of tobacco a day. You also don't inhale them into your lungs, you hold the smoke in your mouth. Smoking cigarettes is less about getting nicotine and more about having something to do when you are stressed etc. | | |
| ▲ | 4petesake a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, I suppose less radiation could be one of the advantages of a crack habit | |
| ▲ | wyre a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Fun fact: the stress that smoking cigarettes relieves is only the stress caused by the addiction/relapse from nicotine. Surely, there might be some placebo effects going on, but nicotine is not a stress relieving chemical. So really it is just about getting nicotine, but over time the ritual around the addiction adds to the addiction. | | |
| ▲ | compass_copium a day ago | parent [-] | | True, but I am vaguely aware of people taking like Zyn for performance enhancement reasons, and I don't think anyone starts smoking like that. | | |
| ▲ | wyre a day ago | parent [-] | | Zyn is freebase nicotine which does show some signs of being performance enhancing; mostly around focus. There are a lot of people with unmedicated ADHD self-medicating with Zyn, or vapes, or smoking due to the this. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't smoke, but when I've talked to smokers a lot of it is about the ritual. Filling the pipe, cutting and smelling the cigar, or removing the cigarette from the pack, tapping it, lighting it up, the taste and smell of the smoke, it's all part of it not just the nicotine. | |
| ▲ | d1sxeyes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That’s not true. The lifetime risk of a smoker getting lung cancer is about 10-20%, not “probably” (somewhere between 15 and 30 times higher risk than a non-smoker). In fact, only about half of smokers die prematurely from their smoking. I mean, I’m not saying start smoking, but also let’s at least have accurate facts. | | |
| ▲ | shakna 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | > By age 80y, an estimated 48.3% of current-smokers (41.1% never-smokers) will develop cancer, and 14% will develop lung cancer [0] "The lifetime risk of a smoker getting lung cancer is about 10-20%". Yup. That's probably true. It is also incredibly misleading, because that isn't the only cancer you are at risk from. So... I wouldn't call what you just said, an accurate fact. [0] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.33685 | | |
| ▲ | d1sxeyes 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | OP said: “You'll probably get lung cancer anyway if you continue it long enough”. That’s not true, and is why I focused on lung cancer. Don’t forget that smokers don’t just die of cancer, so even if we take your source, we still don’t have the proper picture. That’s why I also added the point that about half of smokers die prematurely due to their smoking, because I was not planning to exhaustively list every possible cause of death which could be caused by smoking. |
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| ▲ | jimbob45 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s true and smoking marijuana is arguably as harmful as cigarettes but the pro-weed crowd throws a fit any time anyone points that out. | | |
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