It looks like this also undercuts the already absurdly inexpensive Deepseek Flash in pricing. Wild.

geooff_ 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Where are you seeing that? At the bottom of this post from Qwen I see:

Qwen 3.8 flash: $0.16 / $0.47

Compared to

Deepseek 0723: $0.03 / $0.075

(units in USD/m tok)

twohaibei 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

0.03 / 0.075 ? Where can i get that prices? Especially during peak hours DS4flash became much more money hungry than last month.

	▲	kaelwd 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731?endpoi... 8t/s though apparently and their cache hit rate is terrible so I don't think it's worth it over Relace.

ls_stats 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Deepseek 0732 is $0.22/$0.66 off peak

GLM-5.3-Flash which is larger and better, costs less than this

kzrdude 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

(Edited: I thought Qwen3.8 Flash Next was smaller, but it's not, in bytes. Here's how they compare.)

DSV4 Flash 304B params, 167 GB download (at full size)

Qwen3.8 Flash Next 180B params, 360 GB download (at full size)

180B?

	▲	kzrdude 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		125B regular params, 51B engrams, 4B MTP. Something like that. It should have a label of effectively 125B params with A6B (6B active).