> all of us waiting for government bureaucrats to realise that UBI is a right

You'll be waiting forever, then. This isn't something that you can wait to be given to you, it must be taken.

Or, put much more eloquently by one of the greatest Americans:

"This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress"

- Frederick Douglass

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BenzeneDream 4 hours ago | parent [-]

How do the gears of capitalism keep turning without UBI in such a scenario? Who is buying from Amazon? Mega yachts don't make the world go round.

UBI is how capitalism keeps going, else a new system will be needed.

UBI will be given but we should take even more control and take a % of ownership.

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ihumanable 2 hours ago | parent [-]

We've seen in the K-shaped economy of late a new kind of consumerism.

The top 10% of consumers accounted for half of all spending in the second quarter of 2025.

Capitalism will happily chug along while leaving a massive number of people desperately poor.

There's a reason the AI CEOs have all become obsessed with the concept of a "permanent underclass."

If a UBI is ever "given" it will be just enough to keep the underclass from rising up and killing the owner class and not one cent more.

	▲	red-iron-pine a few seconds ago \| parent [-]
		> There's a reason the AI CEOs have all become obsessed with the concept of a "permanent underclass. it's not for nothin that they've been slipping Zachariah 13:8 into discussions that show up in places like 8chan or ssethtzeentech videos "Declares the LORD: 'in all the land, two-thirds will be cut off and perish, but one-third will be left alive' " The marketing and agit-prop types would call this "priming" or "conditioning"