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ricardobeat 2 hours ago

I had Ox Alpha working on coding tasks for a couple days non-stop, via OpenRouter and OpenCode Zen. Crush harness. It was able to complete tasks at a level that I'd put between Sonnet and Opus. It makes few mistakes, but is not that smart.

The main issue for me, is that it degraded into a doom loop several times. One of them was running the same bash command about a thousand times. The last model I've used that had this problem was Mimo 2.5, which is quite dated at this point. As a result of this, you cannot leave it unattended / not usable for agents.

knuckleheads an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I couldn't get past all the network errors on OpenCode. Seemed smart enough, and was useful when I was low on usage on Claude, but beyond that, really hard for me to say whether it was Good or Bad.

_pdp_ 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doom loops are as much of a model problem as it is deficiency of the harness. I have not seen any other open source harness that deals with them except the one I started because of this obvious gap.

See my other comment with examples where 0x Alpha is working non-stop on various projects with zero problems.

cyanydeez 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I usually see doom loops when working with quants. Likely theyre trying to maximize the viability of a efficient model quant that can bw upgraded. Like cutting coke to get crack, quantiry over quality.

redox99 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ox alpha at moments felt like it was quantized to hell. I think the last few days it might have improved.

echelon_musk an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Nit pick; cutting (adulterating) cocaine doesn't produce crack cocaine.

copperx 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

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willmadden an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Were you using the full model or a quantized version, and what harness/configuration were you using?

It sounds like you were using a quant model.

doublerabbit an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> One of them was running the same bash command about a thousand times.

An amusing thought of returning to your workstation to find it as an obsidian block after it gets stuck executing "dd" thousand times.

RataNova 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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