Posting this because I want people to vote -- and ideally vote for a total ban.

tescreal 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm curious about enforcement. Are they going to ban packages with a whiff of llm? If so, how will they reliably audit?

	▲	someaccount1234 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		No, otherwise one would have to remove the Linux kernel, the Hurd kernel, LLVM, Python, Chromium, Firefox, Rust and everything using these. And probably some more.
	▲	dan_gggggg 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		[dead]

js8 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What are your arguments for a ban? Why do you expect someone to listen if you didn't provide a justification?

VCFundedGenYer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It does not appear that normal people can. There is no vote page, no information on how to, and we can only view results.

colesantiago 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> and ideally vote for a total ban.

If a total ban were to happen, wouldn't that make Debian a target for hackers who can use LLMs to find vulnerabilities?

How would Debian keep up with the influx of AI assisted 0 days?

ctenb 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not using AI to write production code doesn't mean you can't use AI proactively to find vulnerabilities.

Poster wants a "total ban", you can only deduce that means vulnerability management also.

Or you could read the proposal and deduce nothing.

It explicitly excludes security fixes.

	▲	sscaryterry an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Oh the hypocrisy...

H. G. Wells wrote about how this proverb has limitations [1].

	▲	sscaryterry an hour ago \| parent [-]
		No analogy, comparison (add your own language construct) is ever 100% true. Perhaps you should consider that my intent behind this was to say, that Debian will be blind, without ANY eyes.

someaccount1234 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given almost all people here cannot vote, does this mean you posted non-AI-generated slop?

Wouldn't it be better to reduce slop, no matter how it was produced, instead of only AI-generated contributions, including non-slop contributions?

TiredOfLife an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you going to fork kernel? If not then you are just a bunch of stupid hypocrites.

haunter 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Posting this because I want people to vote

Irrelevant to post it here then with your reasons because it only concerns Debian developers

	▲	lproven 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I wrote it. I am fully aware of that, and I said so in the piece. I want to spread awareness that it's happening -- it only has a couple of days to run. So far there are only ~350 votes: https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_llm/ Circa 270 people have voted: https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_llm/tally.txt (My reckoning; could well be wrong!) With a project the size of Debian, I feel sure that is a tiny fraction of eligible developers.