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randomblock1 4 hours ago

Even at the hardware level, if it was a separate chip that the camera data passed through or something, that's not really good enough either, people have broken TPMs before. It'd have to be baked into the camera sensor. Even then, you could attack it from the next level up, with some fancy optics and a display, or something like that.

I don't think completely solving this sort of problem is even possible.

duskwuff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And I'm not sure it's even useful to solve. The presence/absence of a digital signature will never be the deciding factor in whether people accept/reject an image as authentic.

timcobb 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah this is what I don't get why are people even spending time on this.

HWR_14 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is this picture real or AI is a real problem it is worth money to solve.

SoftTalker an hour ago | parent [-]

Why? An image should never be proof of anything, by itself.

EA-3167 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A desperate attempt to preempt regulation.

akersten 2 hours ago | parent [-]

A desperate attempt to establish their version of regulatory capture and not have to pay licensing fees to the other guy

rackp an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

[dead]

jasonjayr 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And in 2026, I don't think it's too big of a stretch to imagine that there are going to be people in power that can add + remove the metadata to whatever image they want, at will, to tell whatever story they want to create. Sadly.

gruez 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There were similar fears about the webtrust CA system, but AFAIK there's no known incidents where a government strongarmed a CA into misissuing a MITM certificate, and then it was used in MITM attacks. The closest is some misissued certificates seemingly due to incompetence but weren't used in attacks.

SoftTalker an hour ago | parent [-]

And there are unicorns living at the end of the rainbow.

yjftsjthsd-h 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Even then, you could attack it from the next level up, with some fancy optics and a display, or something like that.

The analog hole is alive and well:)

taneq an hour ago | parent [-]

And at that level, it’s a matter of definition anyway. What is “AI generated”? A photo of a screen showing an AI picture is still a photo. If that’s “AI” then what about a photo of an AI generated billboard? Or a photo of a bus with an AI graphic on the side?