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somat 6 hours ago

My rather pop-sci understanding is that when you start playing around with relativity math, trying various masses and densities you hit something rather worrisome. As you approach some great, but still possible, value the plot goes infinite, the singularity. This is bad for the theory because going asymptotic like that usually indicates a fundamental problem in the math. But relativity does so well everywhere else... What if it could? And thus the black hole was born.

The easy thing to miss, and blew my mind when I read it. is that general relativity is the concept of space-time, emphasis on the time, and this is also compressed by the mass, so if this singularity can actually occur it would also take an infinite amount of time to fall into it. So nothing can actually enter it. From the point of view of an astronaut(deliberately ignoring all the other relativistic implications) flying directly toward the event horizon. As you approach you will quickly see the rest of the universe age and die. and if hawking radiation is real the black hole will evaporate in front of you before you can reach it.

ryeights 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I believe this is a misunderstanding based on inadequate coordinate systems, and that an astronaut would fall through the event horizon, die, and reach the singularity in finite time.

See https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/82678/does-someo...

saimiam 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Does time accelerate just for the astronaut approaching the black hole (meaning they would be witnessing the future) or does it accelerate for everyone (meaning approaching a black hole is going to make everything end quicker)?

somat 5 hours ago | parent [-]

My rather limited understanding is that. first there is a lot going on and due to the forces and gravitational gradients involved, matter itself probably would not survive the journey that close to the horizon. But ignoring that, When in compressed time, from the point of view of someone freefalling, timewise everything is normal, the rest of the universe has accelerated and in the case of a black hole has just aged out and died but you are fine. from the external point of view they are taking forever to get there.

Where my imagination fails(above my pay grade) is in the face of infinity, what are the implications of infinite time compression?(everything happens at once?)

rramon an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I can only guess as well, infinite time compression might result in a big bang when it applies to everything. All black holes could lead to the same moment causing the bang.

saimiam 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> external point of view

So time is localised? I’m not sure what localised time means but I’m hoping the question makes sense.