And their Safari browser is the worst. It doesn’t properly support PWAs or many other features because they want to maintain tight control over their App Store.

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dlahoda 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My wife, son and me not using Safari. Do not see how Safari relates to App Store.

We use App Store.

	▲	SR2Z an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The point of a PWA is that instead of downloading an actual binary app, you essentially get a webpage that runs like it was an app. They can be installed from anywhere and are safe by nature because they're really just webpages. That was the original conception of iPhone apps, until Steve Jobs realized just how much money could be made from the app store. Now you get to pay Apple a 30% cut for the privilege of installing software on your own device!

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arkon_hn 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not to mention how updates are tied to OS updates...

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dlahoda 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What Updates tied? App Store updates use same networking and storage as OS? Why it is bad?

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tengwar2 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hasn't been the case for some time.

	▲	spartanatreyu 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Not true. MacOS releases a new version each year, the current MacOS landscape looks like: - MacOS Sequoia (previous version, everything works as expected) - MacOS Tahoe (current version, broken experience, basically Apple's "Windows Vista/8 moment") - MacOS Golden Gate (next version, fixes what was broken in Tahoe, comes out in a month) I'm on MacOS Sequoia because I have things that can't be broken by updating to Tahoe. I also cannot test how my websites/webapps will work in a month, because Safari's beta (called Safari Technology Preview) only works on Tahoe and Golden Gate. I cannot wait a month to update to Golden Gate because Golden Gate drops support for my iMac. And I can't test the new version of Safari on my Windows or Linux devices because Safari isn't available for them. I can test the Webkit browser, but that doesn't include the Safari specific changes that apple makes which I need to be able to test. --- So, I can't test Safari until I wait a month and purchase a new apple machine. (Oh by the way, apple keeps cancelling orders for new machines)

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nchmy 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

who are the knuckledraggers that are downvoting this comment? Its completely factual.

Significantly more on that here: https://infrequently.org/series/browser-choice-must-matter/

	▲	chuckadams 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Maybe because they don't want to see this thread dragged down into an open-ended gripe-fest against Apple, especially when it's concerning a feature Apple did ship before everyone else.