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testing22321 6 hours ago

These comments are so strange, because you’re demonstrating how far your head is in the sand, willfully.

Of course Musk talks big. He is almost always late. Lots of things have never happened, or have not yet worked (but they’re still trying)

At the same time he has monumental successes that nobody, ever, has achieved. Worlds safest car (multiple times) worlds highest selling car (model y), car of the year, massive factories building at a speed and quality that made Toyotas CEO say they’re in trouble and have a lot to improve.

The whole supercharger network that smashes every other one.

World’s first reusable rocket, done it 300 times now. Only two others have done it once. By far, by far more launches than every country and company in the world put together. Starship coming along.

To say that he never does anything is a very, very strange set of blinders to view the world through

jjulius 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>At the same time he has monumental successes that nobody, ever, has achieved.

"Nobody ever" doesn't really feel accurate here.

>Worlds safest car (multiple times)...

According to which body? Tesla's interpretation of NHTSA data? Some other organization? Did other cars prior to Tesla's inception obtain this title "multiple times"?

>... worlds highest selling car (model y)...

In 2023, the Y peaked at ~1.22 million. In 1923, the Model T sold ~2.09 million.

>... car of the year...

Numerous bodies label things "car of the year", and many cars were named that before and after Teslas were produced.

jrflowers 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://elonmusk.today/

webdood90 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> you’re demonstrating how far your head is in the sand

Interesting. Perhaps ironic?

If only society cared about genuinely good people like they seem to care about Musk. It's puzzling.

testing22321 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I want to be clear: I don’t care about Musk as a person. I care about facts. I care about achievements.

Just the same as saying Israel is committing genocide is not antisemitism, saying Musk has achieved incredible things is not caring about or supporting him.

Both cases are simply stating facts without any judgement or show of support/not support.

jjulius 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>I care about facts.

>Both cases are simply stating facts...

Sure, unless (as I pointed out in my other response) we're playing fast and loose with what actually constitutes "facts".