Incremental domestic capital investment, good.

The level of cynicism, shit-talking, and schadenfreude wish-casting in response to this is crazy. Start cheering on successes. Resist the deconstructionist mindset.

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officeplant 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Start cheering on successes.

Sure, when success stops being the environmental destruction of every area he sets up shop in for SpaceX launches.

	▲	rayiner 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yeah that’s just a fig leaf. I bet you can’t even name all the other places that have launch sites.
	▲	inglor_cz 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Is it realistic to demand a spaceport with no environmental impact from anyone, SpaceX or not? Current launch technology inevitably produces a lot of heat and noise and we don't have any rocket model that wouldn't at least rarely fail (and explode). That said, extant Cape Canaveral does not seem to be lifeless. Lots of birds. IDK how the precise species composition has changed since 1960, but nature as a whole is a lot more resilient than people seem to think.

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Zigurd 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Go Solar City! Wait...

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thegrim33 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The doomerism has two primary sources:

1) Political - The ideology/party spreading the doomerism promotes that they're the ones that can "fix it", if only you vote for them.

2) Adversarial countries, primarily China - Using the internet to convince members of western civilization to hate their civilization, hate their economic system, hate their history, hate their compatriots, adopt a no motivation defeatist attitude, etc., etc., and they can get our population to destroy itself from within without having to go to war with us.

Reject the doomerism, reject the negativity. Build. Invent. Create. Do your part to contribute to your civilization, to contribute to humanity, to move us forwards.

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rayiner 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The people who build rockets and computers and the Internet are the good guys of history. We should do more of that. That statement shouldn’t have a political valence—people who subscribe to that idea can argue whether taxes should be higher or lower. But if you reject that concept you’re rejecting civilization itself.

	▲	consensus1 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It has a political valence when one party is campaigning on punishing and stopping them from building. "Should" is a meaningless word unless I have agency to change that, and I don't.
	▲	Noaidi 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> The people who build rockets and computers and the Internet are the good guys of history Does no one read history anymore? IBM and the Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust The V-2 rocket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2_rocket "The V-2 rocket (German: Vergeltungswaffe 2, lit. 'Vengeance Weapon 2'), with the development name Aggregat-4 (A4), was the world's first practical, modern ballistic missile and suborbital launch vehicle.[4] The missile, powered by a liquid-propellant rocket engine, was developed during the Second World War in Nazi Germany as a "vengeance weapon" and assigned to attack Allied cities as retaliation for the Allied bombings of German cities." Nazi's are the good guys only when they work for the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

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mthoms 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

3) Elon Musk has fascist leanings and many people don't want to live in a world where such a person has ever increasing wealth, influence and power. Especially since he has no qualms about using that same wealth and influence to subvert and distort elections, both domestic and foreign.

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WalterBright 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Elon Musk has fascist leanings

Fascists aren't known for cutting government spending.

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Noaidi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Neither is Elon Musk...

	▲	WalterBright 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Musk has been simultaneously accused of cutting spending and failing to cut spending.

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SmirkingRevenge 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They're pretty well known for lawlessly purging bureaucracies of experienced, civil servants loyal to the rule of law, to make way for cronies and regime loyalists.

They're pretty well known for scapegoating and persecuting immigrants and minorities and "enemies within" - and engaging in political projects to imprison and/or eject them from the nation.

Musk didn't cut government spending. Legally, only congress can do that. They increased spending. 10s of billions of that spending has gone to towards a mass build out of prison camps where many people, citizens included, are being held in horrid conditions indefinitely without due process and without being charged with any crime. This seems to be a project that Musk supports.

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Noaidi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Elon Musk is mostly a bad person. I do not want mostly bad people to succeed. Why is that hard to understand? You either do no think he is a bad person, or ignore the fact he is.