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dgellow 7 hours ago

There is just so much downward pressure on token price, from every direction. We would need a completely new understanding of economics to explain why the price shouldn’t go down. Or market collusion/regulatory manipulation.

dumberquestions 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The demand for them is growing _per person_, not just across the wider economy, if tokens cost half as much but you want to use 3 times as much you're going to have to pay more.

jazzyjackson 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe 1000s of tokens per second unlocks realtime robotic decision making, and now every robot needs to continuously stream tokens to and from the cloud to operate. That could 1000x demand overnight, just to speculate :)

jacquesm 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would very much like it if anything that moves with appreciable mass is governed locally just in case the link drops and/or latency suddenly goes up. Motion is very unforgiving and accidents will happen if that's not taken into account.

dgellow 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you just found what we will see in the S-1 prospectus of OpenAI

HDThoreaun 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems unsafe to make locomotive decisions remotely

hypfer 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Think about the agents buying computers for their agents. /s

simianwords 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The price has been going down for ages, its not clear what you are pointing at

phoghed 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Pointing at the nay sayers who say tokens are heavily subsidized and it’s all going to come crashing down soon, surely any moment now

dgellow 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean, it will obviously crash at some point. With so much pressure on token price to go down that means way less opportunity for margin for AI providers. OpenAI is in a pretty bad situation

simianwords an hour ago | parent [-]

What does this have to do with margins? It can remain the same once prices go down

dgellow 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At the price going down? And that it will continue to go down, even if the hardware improvements stop. Not sure what isn’t clear