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NoboruWataya 7 hours ago

What is the main use case for X these days? Is it still as popular as it used to be? Clearly the exodus that happened when Musk took it over didn't kill it but I do seem to see fewer links to it than I used to.

Whenever I do see it linked on here it seems to be because one of the big tech CEOs has said something on it.

dwedge 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is only tenuously related but every single Mac app I see advertised on X by verified accounts is malware. I reported one last week to them, they said it's not malware. I appealed it and said the install link is copy and paste obfuscated base64 into your terminal, and they said after review it doesn't break their terms.

So whatever else they do, they take money to knowingly promote malware.

zahlman 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> the install link is copy and paste obfuscated base64

This doesn't make it malware, as likely as it is that malware would hide itself like that. base64 encoding avoids issues with quoting and escaping in the terminal, and is an easy way to include a bit of binary data that might be needed by a command (or even just written directly to disk somewhere). "Obfuscated base64" is only saying something if you decoded the base64 and still got an obfuscated result. Install-time code execution is more dangerous in the sense that you can't review between installation and program execution; but custom installers come from the same source as the program, so it's the same number of parties to trust.

For that matter, PyPA still maintains bootstrap.pypa.io so that Python users can get current versions of pip by downloading and running a Python script that loads a base85 string, decodes it and writes a wheel file based on that. (It even duplicates some of the standard library `ensurepip` logic.)

If you want a malware report to be taken seriously, in general, you should expect to roll up your sleeves and be able to provide an analysis of concrete malicious behaviour.

jerlam 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not just Mac apps. A Twitter ad is a negative indicator, and makes me less interested in the product.

Brendinooo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>What is the main use case for X these days?

I use it to follow people who either have ideas I find interesting or do stuff I find interesting, and typically I'm looking for accounts that are small enough that I know they will at least see my replies, and often interact with them. (Something like 3K-15K followers for most of them, I think.)

I also think it's indispensable for real-time commentary and niche commentary on current events: always requires grains of salt but there's just no better place on the Internet for that sort of thing, in part because...

It's the one major social network I'm on where it is easy to view only posts from the people I follow, in reverse chronological order. A feed I TRULY control (and, if you follow the right people, insulates you from much of the nonsense on the site).

And every once in awhile, some insane viral nonsense pokes in that makes you say "how could I ever quit this site". There's a certain genre of satirical accounts that is very entertaining as well. Definitely a guilty pleasure component to it all!

>Is it still as popular as it used to be?

A quick search roughly aligns with my perception: it bottomed out a couple of years ago and has gradually recovered, though not to where it was pre-X.

kemayo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's the one major social network I'm on where it is easy to view only posts from the people I follow, in reverse chronological order.

Oh weird, I'd rate X as medium-hard for that amongst the microposting sites I look at. Mastodon and Bluesky both default to almost-that, varying mostly in whether you need to jump through hoops to not see reposts.

X was always the one that (a) doesn't default to it, and (b) would keep "forgetting" and pushing you back to the algorithmic feed.

Brendinooo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

>amongst the microposting sites I look at

"major" was doing a bit of work for me. Facebook, Instagram, Reddit were more in mind when I said that.

>would keep "forgetting" and pushing you back

This hasn't happened to me in awhile. Dunno if it was a transient thing, an app thing, or something that has been reversed.

kemayo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Facebook, Instagram, Reddit were more in mind when I said that.

This might be me showing I have strange views, but I don't even think of those as being in the same category of service, so I didn't think of them as a point of comparison.

Brendinooo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

People use these things differently, for sure!

I compare to those because these are social networks - the network is the biggest thing that matters. I LOVE what Bluesky is doing with atproto and was there pretty early as a result, but I didn't stick around because the kinds of people and topics I am most interested in are not represented on the site. The network just isn't there!

FB has a network I want as well, they just make it way too hard for me to see content from my actual friends.

alex1138 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is that network effects are everything

You are using a relic of what-used-to-be-Twitter. That's what people signed up for. I happen to think what Musk has done - although I'm highly skeptical of him - is not totally insane - Twitter did used to have some pretty notable censorship. But you follow people because that's where the people are. Competition does not spring up overnight, companies know this, and so they're left to gradually (or quickly!) enshittify

"easy to view only posts from the people I follow, in reverse chronological order"

Yes, well. That should be the standard. Companies that don't follow that standard should be turned into pariahs

cindyllm an hour ago | parent [-]

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xtracto 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's deplorable, but our president in Mexico recently was asked about some current affairs a d her answer was "ive written about it in X , go see it there" ...

As if X was an official government publishing channel . WTH, they should publish it on they official government pages.

autoexec 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There should be laws that require all government statements to be published on an official government site and be forever archived there no matter where or however else they were published. That way politicians can take advantage of the reach of social media sites while not requiring anyone to use them and also providing a means for those statements to be verified and preserved.

conception 4 hours ago | parent [-]

There are in the US. Just the current administration doesn’t follow them.

scientifik 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This right here is the thing that shows how much influence big tech has. Everyone has their anecdotal story about porn, spam, malware or whatever flooding Twitter meanwhile your local city government treats it as an official communications channel.

kyle-rb 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I haven't left because there are still circles of people I follow that haven't bailed. Once a large enough majority move to Bluesky, I'll start browsing that app more.

On the other hand, I might start posting on Bluesky more because as of a week ago, I'm shadowbanned on X. I know people throw that term around, but nobody on the site can see any of my reply tweets, even me (unless I scroll my account's 'replies' tab); people who've followed me for years are asking why their tweet has a ghost reply.

I don't think X has that much of an incentive to filter out bots while keeping around accounts like me (200 followers, will never pay for Premium). The slightly higher effort bots that glaze tech CEOs will be basically indistinguishable from the real people glazing tech CEOs because they're wannabe founders trying to network/cloutfarm. And that style of dead internet is fine with Elon.

antonvs 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No moral dimension to this whatsoever for you?

sillysaurusx 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That sounds infuriating. I hope you can recover your account.

kyle-rb 6 hours ago | parent [-]

My initial suspicion was that my account was flagged because I only used the web version (the PWA experience on mobile is pretty good) so I've been using the Android app the last few days, and I'll see if that has any signal on my account.

In another view days I'll try filing a support ticket, maybe claiming something like "I was mass-reported by DSA leftists for my right-wing views"; things along those lines have gotten some peoples' permanent suspensions lifted.

pessimizer 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> as of a week ago, I'm shadowbanned on X. I know people throw that term around, but nobody on the site can see any of my reply tweets, even me

This is honestly the real value of nitter far beyond anti-Musk shriekers being obsessed with and addicted to X but not wanting to log into X. Nitter seems to simply give you everything - and you can plainly see which tweets are getting huge distribution and which ones nobody is seeing.

frereubu 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In a UK context, journalists are on there because politicians are on there... and politicians are on there because journalists are on there. It's politicians that need to pull the plug - if they left en masse the journalists would go where they went, even if they stayed on X too - but nobody has the balls to do it. (Aside from one politician who for all practical purposes seems to do absolutely nothing: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyrx1ee2r4o).

dom96 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They could at least use both. I'm pretty annoyed with Andy Burnham. He's had a Bluesky account that has been pretty active... right up until he became a PM. Would it kill him to get a member of his team to repost his tweets to Bluesky?

defrost 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A problem for the UK here is things like Rupert Lowe set to be paid as much for divisive posts on X as for being MP - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/aug/24/rupert-lowe...

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fg137 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what I can tell, most Twitter users outside English speaking countries don't care about who is the CEO at all. Business as usual.

miladyincontrol 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thats sorta my situation, a scene I'm rather involved in has most the international users there, as such thats where things still live. Every other alternative has failed to gain enough traction for one reason or another.

Its usually either limited features, regional accessibility issues, or platforms like metas' just basically trading one big bad organization for another.

shaky-carrousel 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Here en Europe we all saw the owner of Xitter doing the Nazi salute. Can't talk about other regions but here we are well aware who the CEO is.

cbeach an hour ago | parent | next [-]

He raised his arm during a speech and said "my heart goes out to you all"

I can give you freeze frames of many prominent leftwing celebs also raising their arm during speeches.

Please stop with the silly politically-motivated pretense that the man is a N4zi.

timmytokyo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

https://bsky.app/profile/artcandee.bsky.social/post/3lgdvykc...

cbeach an hour ago | parent [-]

That Bluesky link is sign-in-walled.

Ironic, given how many people criticise X.com for its sign-in requirements.

Gigachad 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He has spent the last few months repeatedly posting the same comment about hitler being a socialist. If it was just the salute in isolation it could be questionable, but now there is no doubt.

bakies an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What about video?

notthemessiah 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

English is still the lingua franca of Europe. I find that users in all parts of Asia still use Xitter heavily (though some artists in East and Southeast Asia fled when the Grok edit button was added), and only nazis and campist communists still use Xitter in the US.

CM30 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Companies and celebrities are a major use case here. Lots of them (especially ones from non-English speaking countries) still use the site as their primary means of communication. For example, Nintendo doesn't have an official presence on Bluesky, Threads or Mastodon, just Twitter.

There's a decent number of old school companies and creatives who either don't know/care about alternatives, or who tried them and went back to Twitter/X.

tokioyoyo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Depends on the algos. My jp account sees none of that, mostly news, jokes and some random what’s happening in parts of Japan.

NA tuned account has more of what you said.

rootsudo 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The algos aren’t language neutral yet.

Yet. Japanese twitter users are a reflection of who they are, etc etc

Doesn’t mean there isn’t toxic stuff though.

tokioyoyo 6 hours ago | parent [-]

After some time, and muting/skipping through the usual japanese race-content, it’s more bearable. Fastest way for me to find the reason why a train line is down and etc.

Like last week my feed was all about Chiba flooding. Very relevant.

burningChrome 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>> What is the main use case for X these days?

More of a political echo chamber than anything else. I mothballed my original account when things were getting spicy which was primarily focused on dev, UI/UX, and InfoSec news. I finally went back and have had some great interactions with people about technical stuff that interests me. Right now, the data center and AI discussions are getting intense along with Omarchy, lol. If you steer clear of the political stuff, you can find some good stuff still.

>> Is it still as popular as it used to be?

Probably not but it still ranks ahead of sites like Reddit. Its like the 13th, 14th most popular platform right now. I log on mainly just to see if I'm missing anything. Other than that, most of the engagement I have is curiosity and just fun stuff like seeing people posting retro games, stuff like that.

>> Whenever I do see it linked on here it seems to be because one of the big tech CEOs has said something on it.

X is now kind of the social media cul-de-sac . It used to be one of the go to places for breaking tech, popular cultural and political stuff. Now its usually two or three days late to the party on anything worthwhile. So the posts from the CEO probably made the rounds before you finally saw it on X. lol

runjake 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s still fairly popular, but the statistics show that X usage is gradually declining. Elon claims that X is more popular than ever, but the platform doesn’t publicly release its own stats, and publicly available stats say otherwise.

If you like AI and tech, there are some pretty thriving sub-communities. AI stuff, and a lot of tech stuff happens on X first. Claudebot/OpenClaw/Hermes all began on X months before I commonly saw them appear on other platforms.

pyinstallwoes 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

What public stats say otherwise?

janejeon 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm surprised people didn't mention this, but I find it to be unbeatable in these two areas:

1. Japanese community 2. Porn (good god, so much porn)

j-bos 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you want alpha on things x is the place to be, aside from some discord servers. I've recently leaned off hn and onto twitter.

bonoboTP 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AI research, computer vision/machine learning academic projects and papers, conferences.

spike021 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've made a lot of friends in Japan through shared interest communities that are mostly on twitter. Most are people I've actually met whenever I am in Japan.

KronisLV 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What is the main use case for X these days? Is it still as popular as it used to be?

No idea comparatively, but an artist friend of mine tried out Bluesky and then complained about how there's way more of a limited reach and engagement there compared to Twitter.

Melatonic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its main use for myself was that posts were public by default so lots of government orgs and whatnot posted real time status updates. I never really used it except for occasionally checking those.

Now that more and more are going "walled garden" I don't get it at all

TitaRusell 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Breaking news. If a bomb goes off or a plane goes down people post it to X.

shermantanktop 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Personally I have zero interest. If it's a big enough deal, it'll get to me somehow. Knowing about it 15s after it happened and then seeing a flood of uninformed speculation would be stressful.

Others do value that, no judgment, but for me it's be a net negative.

stephen_g 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, I used to watch things like this, I stopped using Twitter the second it became called 'X' and actually find I don't miss it including the major event live-tweeting.

Since then I've had a look on XCancel when there have been major events once or twice and yeah, most of the flurry of real time updates turn out to be misinformed or just plain wrong later anyway... I don't miss it.

vatsachak 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah browsing every stressful piece of news on X was unironically increasing my cortisol levels

derbOac 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They post it other places also in my experience. Twitter doesn't have the monopoly on that it used to.

autoexec 4 hours ago | parent [-]

If nothing else news agencies publish articles that are nothing but copies of tweets. Sometimes just one sentence long, other times there's no text at all and just a link to the original post. It's basically the same experience, especially since the news media isn't always bothering to fact check or verify anything either in the rush to get views/ad serves.

notthemessiah 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bluesky Social is more useful for news. I can use custom clients such as https://sill.social/ which just aggregate the links and commentary from my feeds, and catch up on what news is important to the ppl I'm following.

Whenever I check X, it's always just misinformation, and it's impossible to see what people actually say because bluechecks are always the first to show up in the algorithmic ranking. On political commentary: they were dying hard for Graham Platner saying he was the only option, but then Troy Jackson who replaced him did better in the polls.

asdff 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean, if it is real it's on every wire service there is too, with slightly less hysteria.

Marsymars 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I ventured onto Twitter for the first time in maybe a year to check on some breaking news around America/Canada tariffs and trade war.

The comment section was pretty awful; 90% people yelling about Canada's government being a tyranny and/or in bed with Communist China.

redsocksfan45 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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gdulli 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The biggest social networks can only die slowly. They have too much momentum for the the type of sudden exodus that was possible when the internet had not yet absorbed the entire population.

dredmorbius 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Unless they're shut down.

G+ comes to mind.

(Several billion profiles, tens of millions active. Shut down 1 Apr 2019. Yes, April Fools' Day.)

vaylian 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a lot of Ukraine war reporting on twitter.

cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent [-]

fwiw a lot of the key accounts for this now also post to both Bluesky and Mastodon

senderista 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't follow the war anymore but I used to follow twitter OSINT accounts supporting both sides; I find it hard to imagine pro-Russian accounts posting on bsky or fedi?

loeg 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What is the main use case for X these days?

The same as it ever was. Short-form gossip. News, discussion, jokes.

Gigachad 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's become just another doomscroll content mill like the rest. Public figures and well known names have been replaced with random content creators and repost bots.

Lammy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My feed is mostly people petting rabbits

Marha01 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What is the main use case for X these days?

There are lots of interesting people/orgs on X from AI/ML circles, as well as Ukraine war OSINT accounts and UA army helpers. I stay on X pretty much for these two topics.

anonzzzies 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Guess one has to, because there are just too many people on there. I don't like it but what can I do. What I hate the most is that states/countries, prime ministers and kings post on there. And that the emergency services of some countries have that as primary channel. I understand cross posting to the most popular social channels, but primary? That SHOULD be a local channel, not some dystopian shit hole you could be banned from randomly.

angoragoats 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I have not used Twitter since 2022 (nuked my account) and I have not missed it even once. You should give it a try.

23asfdnb 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All journalists and politicians are there, including left wing. If you want to know e.g. what the Prime Minister of Pakistan really said instead of some news spin, you have to read his tweets.

It is an elite club, and Musk wants you to pay for it.

I don't know why it is legal for EU politicians to use this walled garden for important messages.

Someone outside of the US jurisdiction (China?) has to keep xcancel.com running.

yubblegum 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What is the main use case for X these days?

twitter/x remains the domain of intelligence agencies worldwide. It is a semi-open (the world first virtual leader, the ayatollah affirms he exists from there ..) psychological operations platform that permits the avatars of "world leaders" to speak to masses and also hosts a parasitical community of grifters ("opinion makers" and "influencers") that feed off of the festering fetid matter served up by the Spook International.

a secondary purpose of the twitter/x is a reverse doomsday clock, based on above. As long as the ghost of this unprofitable "business entity" is kept alive by funny money and funny deals, we can sleep soundly at night knowing there won't be ww3 or any other such extreme negotiating tactics by global elite, since they are all 'playing their role' on twitter currently known as x.

SwellJoe 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't believe the extremism engine of Xitter is reducing the risk of global catastrophe. I think it's accelerating that risk. Certainly it helped elect Trump, and no one can argue that's been good for advancing the cause of peace on earth or avoiding several other causes of mass death.

bluecalm 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of interesting people who do interesting things post on X. You can follow them and have interesting feed. You don't get it on FB/Insta or Tiktok.

>>Whenever I do see it linked on here it seems to be because one of the big tech CEOs has said something on it.

Yeah just a big tech CEOs posting (or an author of a big project, or an engineer working for a top lab), nothing to see here. On to another dancing teenager on TikTok. Let's watch some pranks or a "beauty influencer" on Insta where we are at it instead.

rascul 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's lots of US sports content. That's all I use it for.

Leynos 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's mostly a porn site these days

loeg 6 hours ago | parent [-]

This is one of those situations where describing your algorithmic feed tells us more about you than about Twitter.

dan-robertson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it was historically something like 30% of Twitter traffic. I don’t think this is a new trend in terms of total volume but maybe the filtering got a lot worse.

Markoff 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

that's my experience with using anonymous search on Nitter instance as well, so hardly anything about me using it without any account

numpad0 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it must be that porn often ends up being the most likely relevant content in the randomized initial state for a lot of algorithms. It then shifts and focuses into your actual liking as it collects more data. That should explain a lot of these phenomenons.

dkenyser 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, this is such a tired lazy response by people and is definitely not true anymore. Spin up a new account on a fresh device on a network I've never been on. Click a random video and scroll. Usually the first 3 or 4 scrolls is porn or someone being killed.

Anyone saying there isn't an insane amount of porn and worse on twitter is either lying or hasn't been on the site since it turned into the cesspool we have today.

pessimizer 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But that's got to be what you're searching for. I forget that there's any porn on X, and for a fairly long period I actually thought they had banned it.

angoragoats 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I see many, many Twitter posts here. I flag every single one. Many of them are AI-related, and not something from a big tech CEO. It seems that many fans of AI don’t have any moral quandaries with using it. I will let you be the judge of whether that says anything about their moral compass in general.

csomar 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I rarely use it (you need an account, so I need to add cancel to the url) but last time I had a "guest" account was two years ago and it was pretty much all bots. That being said, some (important) people or companies still use it for announcement but these are usually linked and xcancel works just fine.

I honestly have no idea if there are real people who actually use it daily. Who can read that stuff?

naasking 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Linking to X is less useful than it used to be.

bee_rider 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

IIRC you can’t even read a single post without an account, it is equivalent to posting a link to a private Facebook group or whatever from an outsider point of view.

nomel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is incorrect.

You can see the last few posts of an account [1], and the contents of a single posts, but minimal or no comments [2]. Videos play after dismissing the login popup.

[1] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack

[2] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/2091983940609245467

delecti 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's difficult is reading threads, or more broadly replies. But single posts? Absolutely fine, in fact it's about the only thing that is totally functional without being logged in.

bee_rider 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, weird. I didn’t think there was a way to get rid of the pop-over that hides the post on iOS Safari. But it turns out that there’s a button to close it, just, completely disconnected from the pop-over and hanging out with a bunch of unrelated UI.

naasking 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can read posts you link to directly, but no comments. That's what makes it less useful.

iamnothere 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They changed this slightly, and 1-3 “top” comments are now sometimes visible, but you can’t dig into the thread. And if you click anything you get popups asking you to log in.

g-b-r 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's actively harmful to many people, copy and paste the text if there's no other source

lazzlazzlazz 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Incredibly unpopular opinion on Hacker News, but X remains the center of many circles, including tech. There is almost nothing posted on Hacker News that I haven't seen on X first, with better commentary.

CamperBob2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is the main use case for X these days? Is it still as popular as it used to be?

Yes, because influential, non-evil people who should know better just will not fucking leave. The vast majority of public-minded ML developers and researchers, including people who compete with xAI, being an obvious example.

And because skilled, knowledgeable people who could create a replacement service just will not do so. At least not without finding new and innovative forehead-slapping ways to fail at it.

Incredibly frustrating that Xitter is still as popular as it is.

archagon 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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pessimizer 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Musk is who you engage with on twitter. You're one of the people who makes his account the most engaged with. I follow tons of stuff on twitter, and have no idea what Musk is doing unless it gets in the mainstream news.

jazzyjackson 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Musk inserts himself into the algorithmic feed, has nothing to do with interest, maybe you stay on chronological view since you have enough to follow you don’t need algorithmic

archagon 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not on Twitter at all because it doesn't feel good to use a social media platform owned by an ardent white supremacist directly responsible for the deaths of thousands in the third world. Blood money, blood attention.

iamnothere 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sibling comment (now dead) is correct. “No ethical consumption under capitalism,” amiright?

Polemic aside, there’s a better anti-imperialist/global South cadre on X than on any other platform, including the Fediverse. (If you actually care about following the struggles of people on the ground, rather than virtue signaling.)

pessimizer 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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kijashdkujdfhas 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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angoragoats 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This. Stop going to the Nazi bar, or else you too are effectively a Nazi.

cdrnsf 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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abawany 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I made the mistake of searching it yesterday via a proxy while trying to search for local police news (why do our govts use these mechanisms to publish first) and ran into threads calling for ethnic cleansing of south asians from Texas. Not a great read.

cdrnsf 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'd love to see public agencies or anyone making any sort of significant public announcements use any other platform. FTP a text file to a server for all I care, but I'm not risking a search of a platform that openly encourages extremism and discourages moderation.

brunoarueira 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I think Mastodon or something similar would be really good, without a central moderation.

dylan604 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where else do you suggest they post? Publishing to the socials casts the widest net form them. If they operate their own website and post there, a number approaching zero would see the posts.

Do you expect a new app per municipality to be a solution? Or one app to become a new platform just to interact with gov't agencies that the other platforms already provide? You have the question, but have you spent any time coming up with answers/suggestions?

matsemann 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In Norway most withdrew from X. Norwegian police made a webpage, an rss feed, some push system and an API. So others have made bots that repost on various social media, but the source is no longer in a walled garden.

abawany 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Multi-publish is a thing that is managed by numerous publishers. Right now, most govt sites ime no longer publish at all on their sites or rss but instead update one of facebook or twitter, depending on their preference. If they can afford to buy 70k usd suvs at taxpayer expense, they should also be able to figure out how to publish on mechanisms without walls, such as rss or their own site.

jerlam 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My locale uses Nixle to send people alerts: https://www.everbridge.com/products/nixle/

cdrnsf 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A municipal website? A text file on a file server? Not a login-gated social media platform owned by the world's richest edgelord.

dwedge 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Like all social media, your feed depends partly on who you follow and partly on behavioural cues their algorithms can determine about you (such as who you interact with, sites you visit).

It may be skewed one way or another more than other social networks, but even so, you should be careful saying a social media is a racist bigoted right wing echo chamber because it can sound not like a recital of popular media but more personal experience

cdrnsf 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Given who controls the algorithm, I don't think there's anything inaccurate about the statement.

snailmailman 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

One of the many reasons I stopped using the platform is because after Elon took over, my carefully tuned algorithmic feed stopped showing me content I was interested in and instead promoted bigots and nazis into my feed. Nearly all of the accounts I followed promptly went elsewhere instead of having to endure the platform.

I only check literally one account occasionally, and via xcancel. The last post I looked at on the platform was vaguely supportive of the LGBT community- all top replies were all blatantly homophobic and had slurs in them. It was via xcancel so I wasn’t logged in. That’s not a personalized algorithm showing me bigotry that’s just what the platform is now.

shevy-java 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Actually I retired from twitter before Musk, because twitter started to censor me. But of course once Musk took over, constantly raising his right arm, I knew twitter was dead. Here in Europe nobody wants to see selfish and ruthless right-wing nuts control ecosystems. Billionaires pulling the strings does not work; the USA need to learn this lesson first.

veeti an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Terminally online, infighting and purity testing leftist weirdos who never have and never will achieve anything politically continue to push "nazi bar" rhetoric, but actual people just don't give a shit. Here's some far right nazis for your reference:

https://x.com/vonderleyen https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa https://x.com/liandersson https://x.com/AmnestyEU

slater 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you gonna tell us how Twitter started censoring you, or is this a "which opinions, mf-er" goose meme situation?

q8zd3 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a social experiment about [variable] universal basic income

rogerrogerr 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Can you expand on this? I'm not tracking.

nemomarx 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They have those payouts for check marks? A lot of people post click bait for views to bring in small amounts of money, usually from a poorer country I think

q8zd3 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Verified profiles get money based on engagement rate of their posts, only from other verified profiles; I don't think I need to tell you the quality of said posts, AI slop included.

They are literally getting money (not making) without producing anything and that aligns with Elon's world view of a jobless civilization driven by AI and robots.

giancarlostoro 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's people from all walks of life and all corners of the internet on there still, good and bad. Twitter was always a darned mess, the only difference now is you can't just report people and bully them off the site.

Contrast to me trying to open BlueSky, and seeing death threats and other insane things. I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem. Those two factors alone kept me from even trying it out.

What's really weird is there were a ton of claims that disappeared, about how X was full of bots, but X is the opposite of full of bots. Maybe there's one or another, but they're highly under the radar, X has improved their bot problem drastically.

Edit (tweaked some words, and wanted to add):

Then there was Threads, I am not in any way interested in "New Twitter" by Mark Zuckerberg, no thanks.

nobleach 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I really can't deal with BlueSky. I wanted to because I had a lot of good "starter packs" for NeoVim and OCaml development. Nerd stuff is the reason I visit these sites. The problem is, I start following people and it almost always turns into politics. I may even AGREE with the person's politics but I hate reading and talking about it. God forbid I ever disagree.

Funny thing though. I've heard the claims of "CSAM on Twitter" and now "CSAM on BlueSky". I've never had any of that ransomly show up. I do still have 2 or so random follows from clip-art female avatars with no tweets - per week. I've never quite figured out how that scam is supposed to work. I used to block 'em, now I ignore 'em.

numpad0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What actually show up consistently wherever "CSAM on ___" claims are used against, from Twitter to actual porn sites, or WWW in general, is large amount of contents related to anime and/or East Asians(often above 25) on a rapid constant growth and/or already dominating the place. Only rarely it's about actual CSAM.

giancarlostoro 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The anime thing can still be illegal if its depicting a minor, or what looks like a minor in a sexual way, in various jurisdictions. Honestly sounds like a nightmare to moderate.

numpad0 3 hours ago | parent [-]

My point is that "CSAM in platform" claims often refers to those contents(despite the fact that this tactic in practice results in special carve outs and tried-and-tested legitimacy and free additional popularity for those contents, with hilarity), not necessarily that those ought to be legal(though that kind of is my stance).

xhevahir 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't know whether it's a founder effect of the users that fled there from X, or the mass-blocking features, but no site is as good at enforcing political orthodoxy as Bluesky. A near perfect echo chamber.

senderista 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh I think Mastodon at least comes close.

stephen_g 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I find Mastodon fairly chill and a fairly wide range of opinions, I think part of it is that Bluesky attracts most of the more extreme political people who might otherwise go to Mastodon. On Mastodon people are more likely to just block people who they really don't like and move on so there aren't really pile-ons and all that and different opinions co-exist.

You obviously get more of the people with more 'popular' political opinions in the Trending feed but that's not the default and you don't have to follow that if you can find enough good people or hashtags to follow.

senderista an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't really see coexistence of meaningfully different political positions at all on Mastodon (I think anyone resembling say a centrist Democrat would be quickly hounded off the platform), but that might be a consequence of who I follow.

ceroxylon 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I want to like Bluesky but have run into the same issue with politics as you.

Worse yet, people get so blinded that they lose the plot entirely... I asked someone about the accounting of a Palestinian fund raiser they were promoting.

They got very defensive so I looked into it, and it was a scam. I pointed this out to the poster to let them know, and they wrote a snide response which got their followers to brigade me.

dokyun 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Nerd stuff is the reason I visit these sites.

Fedi is a lot better if you want nerd stuff specifically, running instances attracts a lot of hackers who're geared toward it. The big instances are pretty much the same shlock you get on Twitter/Bluesky but there's a lot of cool people in the margins (tip: look for instances that aren't running Mastodon).

anonzzzies 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Never had issues with bluesky, but i'm a lurker and I have a llm filtering (here on HN, X, bluesky, reddit etc) which removes political stuff and boosts stuff I likely will like.

hypfer 7 hours ago | parent [-]

From what I heard, bluesky (unsurprisingly) has the exact same toxicity problems as twitter.

There was I think this piece of writing in 2024 (just googled it, don't quote me on that) https://www.thefp.com/p/jesse-singal-bluesky-has-a-death-thr...

iirc there were newer instances too, but why bother reading on that, when you can just look at how the system is built.

Twitter and Twitter-ish systems are just fundamentally anti-human. The same can be said about most of social media, actually, but Twitter is high up on the worst offender list, and Bluesky just cloned it. Again.

cagey 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I found this[0] to be an interesting perspective:

"Bluesky Isn't a Bubble. It's a Containment Dome.

Pray that Bluesky doesn't die entirely — we need it so the worst liberal posts are kept in a place where the broader public won't ever see them."

[0] https://www.joshbarro.com/p/bluesky-isnt-a-bubble-its-a-cont...

hypfer 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Ha, nice one.

And same is true for the fediverse.

It should've been like that with Twitter too, but Twitter unfortunately became the clubhouse of the journalist class, and they kinda did control the media. So they made everyone believe that whatever social ingroup infighting skirmish bs is happening would be relevant to the people at large.

Elon saw that, thought "hey I want that" and bought it - not changing anything about it other than giving the microphone to even worse people.

While everyone thinks they can call themself "journalist" (no matter the merit, ethics or similar), at the very least, all of their infighting led to a certain baseline of quality back then. So there was that.

Oh well. Many such cases. Someone not interested in changing the system but changing who is on top I mean.

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Welp, that Josh Barro guy you linked seems equally unpleasant looking at his website's front page.

cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yep, if there's a recommendation algorithm and a "this is my megaphone" style posting, it just inevitably becomes an echo chamber of narcissism.

Even Mastodon which has no algorithm trends towards the obnoxious when you start going into various corners.

As much as I hate Facebook now, the OG Facebook which was strictly a feed of "this is what my friends and family are posting" and nothing else... was ideal. Not public. Just private in an inner group.

the much maligned Google+ honestly had a good model too.

senderista 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Don't forget FriendFeed!

nemomarx 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you look at the replies to basically any big post, you'll see all the blue checkmark bots in there. Usually just copying posts, sometimes doing a weird ai summary of the original post in a way that isn't actually replying to it.

I've got no idea if they're somehow making money off it or what's up

tuesdaynight 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Followed by the porn bots, the racist bots, the "American" bot, etc. I'm really surprised how someone can use X and say that it is not full of bots. It's the same on Reddit.

giancarlostoro 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe it's whatever social media Bubble X has me under, but I only follow people I know or are completely relevant, not random meme accounts.

numpad0 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem.

There really isn't, unless you mean anime content(of both SFW and NSFW alike) by "CSAM". In case you mean by that, then there is, otherwise no. It also appears to be highly locale dependent - some say they see timeline filled to the brim with fetish furry images and male gay nudity dressed with right wing politics, but my timeline is like just Twitter 2014 stuck at 3AM without any of those. I don't use any filters or blocklists, the place seem naturally nice-ish.

> about how X was full of bots

They appear to have largely given up and scaled back efforts to replace existing social graphs by funding African/Middle Eastern/Indian/South Asian content farms under the guise of revenue sharing programs, burning out talents west to east, likely with the conclusion that they're all equally incapable of understanding contents posted on Twitter even without the language barrier, let alone gaining popularity and even with literal algorithmic manipulations. Or they just burned through quite a deep talent pool globally.

That effort started after Twitter was bought, beginning around South Africa or Nigeria. So it's not an improvement, unless you count someone ceasing hostility as an improvement.

ErroneousBosh 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bluesky has a weed problem, but eventually you can tune the algorithm to only show you thirty or forty posts about weed every day.

numpad0 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think those are ultimately a locale dependent content bandwidth problem. Unwanted content has to be recommended if there were nothing else to show. Discovery feed on bsky.app gives me game news, local news, cat pics, some center-left politics, manga panels, food pics, random personal updates, cat pics, all warm and fuzzy stuffs.

I don't get any CSAM, alt-right, nazism, weed, ragebaits, unwanted gay contents. Simply none of those. But I don't normally set the language to English, and I suspect that might have to do with not getting those stuffs.

criddell 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bluesky is shrinking.

https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/blueskys-active-user-base-...

smith7018 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I genuinely can't take this comment seriously if you think BlueSky has a CSAM and bullying problem while staying on X.

golf1052 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, there were numerous news reports about the AI CSAM problem on X

- June 2025: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/x-accounts-peddle-chi...

- Jan 2026: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/musk-grok-ai-bot-safeguard-s...

- Mar 2026: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/17/x-csam-ch...

36799753298 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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devmor 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem.

I left X permanently because the unfathomable amount of CSAM being generated by Grok, without seeing it myself, sickened me to the point of no return.

I don’t use Bluesky but it seems to me that if this is a real concern to you, then you should have left X as well.

criddell 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I only log in to X a couple times a month, but the only type of Grok post I've ever seen is somebody retweeting a post and adding something like "grok, is this true?".

utopiah 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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tolerance 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would love to see a visual representation of what you think those sort of people look like.

utopiah 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fiction would led us to believe they look ugly or gorgeous... history has shown us they look very banal.

tolerance 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Right. All that's left is for us to figure out how to specify the type of banality you and I and our sibling commenter are imagining.

davidw 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably pretty ... banal, like Hannah Arendt pointed out.

hypfer 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not really.

I mean you'd wish that that was the case, but the reality is even bleaker. The "specific kind" is not all that specific.

Like yeah, of course, the crypto, AI and business grifters are a lot louder on Twitter now, but.. wouldn't say that they're not on HN as well, so.

I mean I understand that you would want to shame people into leaving that platform, but to feel shame you first need to be present in the room and conversation. Apathic people on autopilot are not even taking part in the conversation you'd like to have. They just scroll.