Very curious to see how this compares to Deepseek v4 Flash. I have to assume they wouldn't be releasing this if it was worse.

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natrys 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why not? It's not really competing in the same size class.

Besides, as they explicitly wrote here, the main goal for this release is not performance, rather to serve as a reference for inference runtimes about what to implement. So that later Qwen 4 can be released with zero day support.

	▲	Catloafdev 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Good point, I didn't see that. I guess I categorized them in the same bucket of 'runs on 128gb machines' Guess Qwen 4 is the one to wait for.

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NitpickLawyer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Their "next" variants are usually undercooked, but useful for the community to verify support for inference stacks. This will likely be the same.