| ▲ | quietsignal 3 hours ago |
| Note that the selfishness of the farmer or fisherman may in certain light differ from the greed of the capitalist, if one’s family endurance depends on it. |
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| ▲ | TSiege 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you read the article it’s pretty clear this is greed and short sighted thinking > While understudied, the incentives for the use of dangerous dynamite fishing are often falsely attributed solely to poverty and desperation. The cost barrier to buying boats, bombs, and detonators means it’s more likely a practice for middle-income fishers, according to experts. “A combination of factors drives blast fishing, including ineffective enforcement and management,” said Hampton-Smith, highlighting how indiscriminate the explosions are, killing all manner of species, regardless of age, size, or intent. |
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| ▲ | epolanski 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Those are nothing but excuses. Destroying habitats and the future of fellow fishermen for short-term gain is just selfishness and greed. Desperation is no excuse. |
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| ▲ | TSiege 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | To those replying that it’s feeding starving children read the article. The equipment to do this isn’t accessible to poor fishermen. From the article, “While understudied, the incentives for the use of dangerous dynamite fishing are often falsely attributed solely to poverty and desperation. The cost barrier to buying boats, bombs, and detonators means it’s more likely a practice for middle-income fishers, according to experts.” I’d argue this practice hurts poor fisherman more than helps as coral reefs are important nurseries for fish and reliable sources as well. Blowing them up will rob communities of shallow fishing grounds and future fish | |
| ▲ | horacemorace 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Say that again when your children are starving. | | |
| ▲ | rdiddly 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Thanks to these assholes destroying entire fisheries, I might not have to wait long. |
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| ▲ | eloisius 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Easy to say when it’s not your child facing starvation. The long term doesn’t matter if your family isn’t going to make it another month. | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | RTFA, they say they it's not poverty, the explosives and boats involved mean that it's not the desperate doing this. It's greed, the sooner we can be less paternalistic about this kind of stuff the sooner we can start addressing these kind of problems. It's like India or china being major polluters, they need to be held accountable just like the west holds/held itself accountable. | | |
| ▲ | zmgsabst 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I enjoy when HN engages in overt racism like this — eg, denying peer agency and morality to SE Asians, due to the posters feeling above those “lessers”. Paternalistic racism might as well be a central tenet of certain political movements — whose entire ideology is that certain humans are not fully equal as thinking moral agents in the world. The new “scientific racism”. |
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| ▲ | parineum 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Anything beyond ascetic maximalism will be cast as greed to the naturists and malthusians. There's always someone out there who is going to make the argument. |
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| ▲ | epolanski 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There aren't many more reasons but greed to destroy ecosystems with bombs and detonators. |
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