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wlaw15 3 hours ago

Sometimes you learn of an unintended consequence of seemingly good idea wreaking havoc on an ecosystem. I would not put fishing with "plastic bottles filled with explosives" into that category.

cute_boi 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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3minus1 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

According to the article these fish are sold locally, with obvious damage from the blasts to their internal organs. So it's not the reason fish is cheap in Western countries. AFAIK cheap fish mostly comes from farms.

throwaway2037 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

    > Otherwise how would people have cheap fish?
I will offer a counterpoint. Japan has extensive fishing within its territorial waters (economic exclusive zone). It has some of the most productive fishing in the world, in part, thanks to the Kuroshio current. Japan does not need to use dynamite fishing, and yet, raw fish prices are incredibly cheap in Japan for a huge variety of fish. Their prices are much cheaper than other highly industrialised nations.
kubb 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cast a net or eat tempeh. It being convenient doesn’t mean it’s the only way to do it.

aziaziazi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

+1 for tempeh, incredible tasty and healthy food. Anyone should try it at least once in their lifetime.

cute_boi 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tempeh is good, and I fully support it.

throwaway2037 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why is this downvoted? It is a reasonable comment.

Johnny_Bonk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Casting a net is actually one of the less sustainable ways to fish.

throwaway2037 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am starting to see this lazy response pattern on HN. Someone makes a reasonable comment, then a responder pops-up like a whack-a-mole to say little more than: "That's not true." or "That's still bad." ... while offering no evidence to their claim, nor any reasonable alternative. I think that it adds so little to the conversation. And specific to the comment, they even used the Holy Grail of annoying Internet argument tendencies: "actually".

HighGoldstein an hour ago | parent [-]

"You say we should improve society yet participate in it, curious"

throwaway2037 an hour ago | parent [-]

Are you referencing this meme?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342...

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...

skinfaxi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Compared to throwing bombs in the water?

red-iron-pine 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

depends on how big the net is. some of those huge trawllers do lots and lots of damage.

tempeh can be crazy toxic if spoilt. there is coconut tempeh which is officially banned due to potential for toxic contamination, but which is still super popular -- and routinely kills a couple of people every year.

fc417fc802 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'm curious. Do you mean spoiled during the production process (ie was inedible to begin with) or spoiled in storage (ie was edible at time of purchase)?

tclancy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Think you might be casting too wide a net there. It certainly can be.

lightedman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Which sort of net casting? I grew up with a hand-case 8ft diameter net. I'll guarantee you that's a billion times more sustainable than a trawler.

doublepg23 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> While fishers predominantly use the method to catch fish for sale at local markets

krunck 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Otherwise how would people have cheap fish?

Fish farming?