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| ▲ | rrr_oh_man 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Man, that was my instinct too, but I’m not sure. I don’t think everyone here is using Claude/GPT/… to create indie games? If you’re using it for work then waiting another week/day/hour is a business expense, effectively. Maybe it's like this guy I know who purchased a new-ish Bugatti but all the service is done by a local mechanic, during his time off, in a barn. | | |
| ▲ | phiresky 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I think you're underestimating the "more expensive". It's not a 30% discount or similar. API is at least 10 times more expensive (own experience), ~40x as expensive if [1] is accurate. At that price difference, lots of things that are viable to do in whatever harness the subscription allows are simply impractical via API, you'd be spending a whole developer's salary just for the benefit of using a different harness. I tried for example Deepseek V4 Pro for a bit (via API pricing), but it's _more expensive_ than Sol via subscription, even though $1.7/Mtok is a lot less than 20$/Mtok. [1]: https://tibotattle.com/ | | |
| ▲ | rfgplk 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > API is at least 10 times more expensive (own experience), More. On CC I'm currently burning ~$5k a day (according to claudes own metrics) and I use up the weekly quota in about 3-4 days. Meaning I'm eating $20k worth of tokens for a $200 sub. Current session I have running in the background, spinning up tests mostly Total cost: $660.33 Total duration (API): 22h 36m 33s
Total duration (wall): 8h 33m 58s
Total code changes: 7662 lines added, 177 lines removed
Usage by model:
claude-haiku-4-5: 6.0k input, 38 output, 0 cache read, 0 cache write ($0.0062)
claude-opus-5: 322.9k input, 5.1m output, 702.9m cache read, 19.3m cache write ($606.64)
claude-opus-4-8: 742 input, 883.5k output, 38.6m cache read, 2.0m cache write ($53.68)
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| ▲ | rrr_oh_man 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thank you. > At that price difference, lots of things that are viable to do in whatever harness the subscription allows are simply impractical via API, you'd be spending a whole developer's salary just for the benefit of using a different harness. Could you elaborate on that? Off topic:
You did the ISBN visualization thing! Awesome! |
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| ▲ | rfgplk 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | API costs are simply too high. If you go wild you can easily burn $3-5k a day. If you really hammer it (ie going full parallel agentic) you can exceed $10-20k. And this isn't even going crazy. Those costs are simply too high to make any sense. |
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