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bubblegumcrisis 5 hours ago

Sigh..

Is there anything better now though?

All I see from AI, is an amplification of the enshittification of the internet.

And people being even more alone.

AbsurdCensor 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, when you look a little wider, since 2000 we have seen the following major improvements:

- Extreme poverty has dropped from 30% to under 10% globally. - Child mortality rates have dropped in half - Internet access has exploded from 10% to 70% - Solar energy costs have dropped 90% - Cancer death rates have declined by 30%

All of these massive improvements in less than 30 years.

While there certainly are issues to solve, and if you simply follow journalism you may think the world is worse off, but for many, their lives have been significantly improved.

Taikonerd 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

On that note, I'd like to share Fix the News: https://substack.fixthenews.com/

It's a Substack that reports good things happening around the world, divided into sections like "Conservation and Restoration," "Climate and Energy," "Medicine," etc. And they also give part of their profits directly to projects in those categories.

(I'm not affiliated with them, I'm just a subscriber.)

SamPatt 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks for sharing this sentiment and including data. So few people seem aware of the wonderful progress humanity keeps making. Makes me worry that the progress will stall or even reverse because people don't even know it's happening.

AbsurdCensor an hour ago | parent [-]

I think a lot of it is because the majority of improvements are not seen by those who already comparatively have so much. AIDs used to be a death sentence, and now it's a manageable disease, and there is a lot of work going on to vaccinate against it. These are massive things that I think a lot of people ignore. It's always easier to see when things are on fire rather than to celebrate the victories along the way.

minhaz23 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is that AI / compute driven?

brookst 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In part, sure. From drug discovery to crop yields to education, compute and AI have material benefits. It's kind of shocking that anyone could doubt this.

Evidence:

* https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.09809

* https://phys.org/news/2016-12-mobile-money-access-percent-ke...

* https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3893351

This being HN, I hasten to add they also have massive downsides, we're all doomed, nobody programs the right way anymore, those poor people just think compute & AI are improving their lives, etc, etc.

AbsurdCensor an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Absolutely computer driven. It's hard to say the impact of AI, let's give it the same 25 years of computer advancements.

rowanG077 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

AI in the sense of LLMs is too new to really make an impact yet. But it is compute driven. Modern science and engineering would be impossible as we do it now without high-end compute.

wang_li 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These improvements are showing that we're producing plenty so that the cost is driven down and distributed to wider and wider portions of humanity.

But my personal observations of AI is that it's producing more and more of the same stuff and not moving the front forward much. The human innovation and invention seems to be lost.

AbsurdCensor 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's not quite the case. Effort and focus by amazing groups, governments and individuals are the reasons for improvements, not just that producing more or costs being driven downwards.

Innovation with AI is happening as well, but it obviously will need more time. It's already being used to diagnose tumors and disease earlier in the process, which will improve outcomes for patients, but obviously it's going to take time to see the results of those efforts.

I think of AI (especially self hosted) as the most helpful computer assistant that can do things I otherwise wouldn't dedicate time to do. I have a massive media library that is a mess of naming conventions and want to clean it up. Writing specific scripts and processes for doing that is possible, but I don't want to invest the time. Or I can ask the local Qwen model to go through and do it for me with a single prompt, "Please rename these files in each folder following this specific format, and when needed access this local service to look up the additional information needed" and then extend that to when I dump new media in, it's automatically organized and renamed. Works pretty darn well and I spent a whopping 5 minutes getting it going, rather than the hours of writing scripts and doing it by hand.

cedws 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just like the computer revolution, it will make a small number of people richer and put everyone else at their mercy. In real terms the average person is far poorer than in the 20th century. Used to be able to buy a home and support a family on a single income. Now it can take two just to survive.

marknutter 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I wonder if doubling the workforce had anything to do with that..

svachalek 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You're right, probably nothing to do with moving all manufacturing out of the country or Reagan's union busting.

senordevnyc 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In real terms, the median human globally today is vastly richer than at any point during the twentieth century.

And the median American is also richer in real terms, both in terms of wealth and in terms of income.

Of course, that all assumes that you use a reasonable measure of inflation that’s stable, well-designed, and applied methodically and consistently over many decades.

Alternatively, you can cherry pick data points and go based on vibes, which lets claim whatever you want!

kilroy123 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, there is more renewable energy than ever before powering the world. It's all being built and added to the grid faster and faster each year.

That's one big plus.

runjake 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Then you’re either spending time in the wrong parts of the internet or doing things that don't fulfill you.

These times are exciting and rough seas make good sailors. Find your path forward.

ashetr 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What is exciting about getting pablum spoonfed by a data center owned by trillionaires?

I'd rather go to the library and read a book.

brookst 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why in the world are you choosing to live that way?

I'm writing the best music of my life, realizing games and art projects I never had time for, and writing higher quality software in addition to dramatically more of it. Who has time for pablum?

How exactly are you using these tools that you have that experience?

ted_dunning 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You are actually not doing much of that.

You have become a spectator.

runjake 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can do both. I still find time to read a couple books a month.

You have agency and can choose your own adventures. If you don't like something, don't do it.

theoreticalmal 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your legs broke? Go do that

2shag15 5 hours ago | parent [-]

What does it have to do with legs? This site has turned a mental hospital with AI patients.

corysama 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's an expression. "You're legs broke?" here means "What's stopping you from going to the library and reading a book?"

LevGoldstein 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a grovel-for-investor-dollars site that we've long pretended is for serious technical discussion. Comments should always be filtered through that lens.

senordevnyc 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who is stopping you?

snozolli 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

False dichotomies make for terrible conversation.

"Find your path forward!" he shouted with glee, as he ran toward the cliff.