> I guess if you don’t have a massive population of antisocial people who destroy the public facility, you can provide them.

Or a consistent race-based or immigrant underclass caste. A lot of countries have the blessing of not having a large population whom they can dismiss the condition of based on visual cues. They just moved from feudalism to universal humanism in one generation.

Whatever bad things you can say about China or Taiwan, they both think slavery is wrong and kings are childish. Somehow the west never caught up. Still having that debate, still trying to justify why their great-grandpas killed those people. China left Mao behind; and the US is still praying to slaveholders and mocking slaves' children, while eating their inheritance.

> It’s a shame we in the west surrendered that.

The west were slavers. They literally auctioned off women to have sex with (the "fancy trade") and put children (sometimes their own) into the fields for life. When some got the morality to be disgusted by that, it resulted in bloody wars (I would even include the wars Germany really started because it lost the colony race.) Their civil society was rife with sundown towns, and in Europe actual death factories were designed to murder civilians.

The west is run by degenerates and venerates degenerates. Until it faces that properly, it will never be safe. China did that.

> the cumulative sacrifices made on the alter of our huge antisocial populations

It's "altar," and the cliché usually refers to wasted efforts to preserve something (generally an abstract ideal.) Nobody is trying to preserve "antisocial populations." They're usually trying to dispose of the old ones after using them up, and to get new ones in who still can't vote. Ironically, the "antisocial populations" are also the ones who clean the toilets.

>Whatever bad things you can say about China or Taiwan, they both think slavery is wrong and kings are childish.

I remember China being pretty racist. A lot of people visiting got a clear message. Not aggressively but quite clear.

>The west were slavers.

Who sold them the slaves? Did Europeans go hunt for slaves or did they buy them? Who did they buy them from?

Also answer this, if Americans wouldn't have bought the African slaves, all those African-Americans that are now enjoying life in the land of the free, where would they have been born today? Think if they could push a button today to wipe slavery from the past, but that meant they get to spawn back in Africa, they would push it or not? Legitimate question. Because it's not like nothing good came out of it.