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DesaiAshu 7 hours ago

"Claiming that the 300-year dynasty was actually a myth is akin to saying the American Civil War never happened"

Aren't republicans in Texas trying to rewrite history books to ignore lynchings and burnings of Black Wall Street and claim that slaves were treated pretty well?

Seems like every country has factions who do this - right?

rsynnott 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are cranks who claim that, essentially, the _middle ages_ did not happen. Claiming that things which obviously happened didn’t happen is one of the more common forms of crankery; motives vary (I think the Middle Ages deniers are generally a bit more innocent than the Texas Republicans, say)

zelda420 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My daughter is a tx high school student and the books don’t mention slavery in context of the civil war. It’s framed as only a states rights issue, in which Texas is the honorable fighter of freedoms.

kjs3 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was a states rights issue...the right of those states to own slaves. If you read the articles of succession for each of the confederate states (the actual words the actual people who decided "screw that Union thing..." put on paper to justify what they are doing and sent to Washinton), every one of them explicitly states "we are doing this because you are threatening our right to own slaves". This is the "well ackshually..." argument used to pretend the Confederates were fighting a noble cause and the rest of the hypocrisy being shoveled about.

jmclnx 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And I am sure there is no mention that Slavery was the # 1 reason for Texas Succeeding from Mexico.

mmooss 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yet all these educated people keep lauding and moving to Texas?

bilbo0s 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In fairness, Texas is a place where they make elementary school kids stand up every morning and say the Pledge of Allegiance...

to the TEXAS flag.

Just pointing out that the educational experience in Texas is not necessarily indicative of what the educational experience in the rest of the US is like.

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dj_gitmo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Aren't republicans in Texas trying to rewrite history books to ignore lynchings and burnings of Black Wall Street and claim that slaves were treated pretty well?

I remember this controversy from a while and IIRC I don't think this is accurate. For one thing, they teach that slavery was a central role. https://www.npr.org/2018/11/16/668557179/texas-students-will...

I remember looking at the actual key points in the Texas curriculum and nothing seems that unusual. Some people we IMO nitpicking.

SpicyLemonZest 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think that's very much alike at all. Denying the existence of a major dynasty is like declaring that Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson didn't exist, and all the historical traditions and documents to the contrary were invented to cover up the two terms Jefferson Davis served in the White House. I've never seen even the most strenuous Lost Cause advocates say something like that, because why in the world would you?

duskwuff 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Denying the existence of a major dynasty is like declaring that Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson didn't exist

There's a great difference of scale.

Lincoln died about 150 years ago. There are voluminous primary sources about Lincoln - e.g. photographs of him, original documents that he wrote, firsthand accounts of his actions, etc. We certainly don't know every detail of his life, but we do know a lot of it, and we're quite confident it's true.

The Tang dynasty, by contrast, fell over a thousand years ago. We know of it primarily through second- and third-hand histories and through interpretation of archaeological artifacts - much like our knowledge of Greek and Roman history, for instance. There are a lot of thinly covered areas, and many of the sources are biased; there's a lot more to be uncertain about.

ndjdkfmfk 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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