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abrezas 3 hours ago

You are looking at the acceleration but without looking at the initial state.

A more fair metric would be Co2 emissions/person and I’m getting

USA 14.3 t, China 8.8 t, EU 5.5 t, India 2.2 t

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TacticalCoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> A more fair metric would be Co2 emissions/person and I’m getting

We don't care about that notion of "fair": the cold hart truth is that China has 1.4 billon people.

Another way to put it: China has one billion more people than there are in the US.

Or another way to put it: 4.1x more people.

Which means China is emitting nearly 3x more Co2 than the US.

Our only hope is that China is using coal and fossil fuels only has a mean to sustain its insane growth while they transition to solar and nuclear (which they also do, at an amazing speed).

Hillbillies and redneck with their gigantic pick-up trucks in the US are really the least of worries.

mitthrowaway2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Solution to save the environment: China should separate out Tibet, Xinjiang, and Inner Mongolia as separate independent countries. Hong Kong and Macao too. And then split north-south so that Shanghai and Beijing become their own capitals. Continue this process and eventually the population and emissions of each individual country will be low enough that they can be ignored, thus solving the problem once and for all.

edflsafoiewq an hour ago | parent [-]

That is the opposite of what GP said. The point is only the total emissions matter, the climate does not care about "fair" allocations over either people or nation-states.

piva00 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The EU has more people than the USA but emits 1/3 of the USA's, what's the exceptionalist excuse for that?

toddy_flogsit an hour ago | parent [-]

well, yes we're overfed and over-commercialized. But we also vastly out build, grow and produce Europe. (and you have more people)