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jimt1234 4 hours ago

This is exactly what I hear from my MAGA relatives: Why should I care if the ocean rises a few inches? I don't own beachfront property in Florida.

shoobiedoo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, at least they are honest about their stupidity. I live in Japan and am constantly shocked how many raised SUVs with the oversized max-grip tires in cities. Japan used to be a "doing it right" country in terms of not going overboard with waste. If you asked them why, they would probably say "it's cool!".

Turns out humans will always choose status symbols and vanity over facts. Oh well

horacemorace 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Humans simply choose whatever is comfortable and conforming. If their tribal mantra is solar panels, they’ll do that just like they’ll do anything else.

HeyLaughingBoy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm sorry, but why is this a surprise?

shoobiedoo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Besides my saying that it used to be contrary to Japanese cultural expectations (もったいない)?

mikestew 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You’re assuming they bothered to read your comment before jumping to “why u surprised, bro? Derp, derp!”

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48223674

kenhwang 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what we've seen, so far the (not projected to be underwater) coastal areas might be the areas spared in this scenario too, because being by the water still moderates temperature swings.

It's everywhere else that'll be getting record breaking heat/drought and snow, which have been far more damaging. The disaster radius of hurricanes reaches far more inland than just the coast.

twothreeone 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean they're right, rising oceans will be a drop in the bucket for the majority of us. Unless we act together, human civilization will end through the combination of breakdown of global trade, mass migration due to heat and resource wars, and collapse of our food chain. Ocean levels are just one of the side effects that goes along with rising global temperatures.

Beef production in the US is already down from 30 years ago. At some point you won't be able to raise cows anywhere, less alone feed them. Corn and wheat have seen tremendous fluctuations in the past and will likely continue to fall. Imagine corn yields dropping by more than 80% in the US [1]. Of course MAGA people will probably only notice once the shelves aren't being restocked.

[1] https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0906865106

jimt1234 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Of course MAGA people will probably only notice once the shelves aren't being restocked.

And then they'll blame Obama.

jibcage 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

US beef production is actually slightly higher than 30 years ago. What has fallen is the cattle headcount (now the smallest since 1951) but heavier animals have kept total output up. The recent herd shrinkage owes more to drought economics and the normal boom and bust cycle of ranching than to cattle becoming unraisable.

twothreeone 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Right, exactly that was what I meant. Thanks for clarifying. I remember being surprised by this when I heard it on NPR a few weeks ago.

ElProlactin 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Your relatives clearly aren't MAGA if they're not concerned about what rising sea levels will do to Mar-a-Lago.

Terr_ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Careful, that's a pitfall there if we assume MAGA words reflect an internal belief system.

Too often the words are whatever they have to say in order to secure continued membership in the group: The Emperor's New Clothes are a glorious blue today.

P.S: Also, we have always been [about to start|recently victorious] in the [illegal war|undeclared "excursion"] against Irania, and the tariff-free chocolate ration has been raised to twenty grammes per week.