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▲ wtfHN26 15 hours ago

Most likely these companies will set up GCCs offshore. Moving the jobs abroad.

Whatever tax and living + lifestyle expenses that USA economy was making from H1B's will be gone.

Good for the rest of the world.

▲lingua_franca 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The government can penalize companies for doing so.

▲potatoking 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Not really.. Corporations have enough holdings abroad to survive and kill a party or two.

▲lingua_franca 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Any examples?

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▲Daishiman 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anything that can't be done by the company will be outsourced to a consultancy. This already happens; a lot of work in Google products is done by external agencies.

▲lingua_franca 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Did Google give work to external agencies because American employees couldn't do it, or because external agencies were cheaper? What happens when they are no longer cheaper w/ the government penalty?

▲Daishiman 11 hours ago | parent [-]

A lot of companies reasonably prefer to outsource software work that they don't deem part of their value-add or core competency for the same reason any other company outsources that kind of work. It may or may not be a cost reason (it usually isn't because contractors are not cheap even outsourced ones), it's mostly because you don't want to increase payroll for these tasks or the tasks are of temporary nature.

This is not avoidable, and trying to make it illegal would just kill of American software companies.

As an example: a friend of mine worked for a large consultancy that worked on menu screens for gaming companies. The reason for this is that game companies aren't interested in developing specialized UIs for each game but there are outsourcing agencies that already have entire pipelines set up for this and are basically a sausage factory of game menus for most major game engines.

▲lmz 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Of course you can outsource without offshoring.

▲Daishiman 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Not if you actually want to get the best talent in the world.

▲lmz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The "best talent in the world" should have no problem with that six figure sum, then.

▲toomuchtodo 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The HIRE Act: 25% tax on outsourcing - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45161419 - September 2025

Ohio senator introduces 25% tax on companies that outsource jobs overseas - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45146528 - September 2025

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▲cyanydeez 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲rayiner 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲Daishiman 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If being in the U.S. didn’t offer advantages they wouldn’t be here to begin with.

For companies hiring H1Bs it's about being closer to clients and colleagues and just being managerially far easier than opening an offshore office, but the benefit isn't infinite and once companies have the chops for opening new offices they'll turn down the H1B hiring.

The issue for the US is that, are you're saying, "having faith in your own country" only works if you have the process for developing unnaturally skillfull talent, which is just not going to happen once the smart people stop moving to the US as countries have uniformly distributed talent potential.

▲rayiner 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> only works if you have the process for developing unnaturally skillfull talent, which is just not going to happen once the smart people stop moving to the US

So how did America become a world power before H1B? The U.S. was the world’s largest industrial power by the early 20th century with almost zero skilled immigration. We had restrictionist immigration policies from 1921-1965 and skilled immigration after that was a trickle until the 1990s. Apart from one-off events like German scientists after World War II, immigration was heavily skewed towards poor but hard workers.

▲Daishiman 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Because unskilled work and a gigantic natural resource base was the basis for wealth of the 19th century but that doesn’t hold up anymore?

▲hollerith 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You seem to have interpreted "have faith in your own country" as "have faith in the people who grew up here" whereas I interpreted it is as more like "have faith that the parts of the country's institutions and culture responsible for its excellent economic performance will continue to prove difficult for other countries to replicate".

▲rayiner 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those two things are strongly overlapping. People are socialized into the institutions and culture that other countries find difficult to replicate.

▲Daishiman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Having seen American institutions up close I’m sorry to say that if you subtract the people who have bought into the American dream you’ll find that it’s educational institutions are unremarkable.

▲add-sub-mul-div 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's certainly fewer barriers to offshoring now that employees have insisted there's no benefit to being onsite.