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volf_ 12 hours ago

GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so.

My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot.

MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant than the lab behind ox-alpha, so less likely).

nylonstrung 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It would be stranger to me that Kimi switched to GLM's tokenizer than that GLM added multimodal like Kimi and Deepseek both did recently

minimaxir 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The other tell from the provider angle is capacity. Whoever is hosting Ox Alpha has a lot of capacity which narrows down a lot of the Chinese companies.

Bolwin 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Glm had made vision models in the past. Look up GLM 5v.

The only question now is if it's 5.3v, 5.4/5.5 or a dedicated flash/vision model

BoredomIsFun an hour ago | parent | next [-]

GLM made pretty decent for that time small 9b vision model, GLM-4.1.

volf_ 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah. It could be. The Z.ai DC latency is still ~1.2s faster than whomever is serving this model.

Almondsetat 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

DeepSeek literally just came out with the vision-enabled version of Flash v4 which was purely text based. Why would GLM not be able to do the same thing?

volf_ 12 hours ago | parent [-]

It's possible