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FpUser a day ago

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palmotea a day ago | parent [-]

> Sounds like a loser diatribe. Nobody asked your country to do anything with China. Was your government's and corporations choice and yes they had to pay for the privilege of cheap labor and later for advanced manufacturing capacity.

No, the GP's comment is an attempt to correct the mistake you were so kind to outline. There's no reason we must stick with the approach set by a previous set of leaders who turned out to be short-signed and naive, and course corrections start with outlining the problems and contradictions of the present course.

t-3 a day ago | parent [-]

What's short-sighted and naive is believing that globalism can be reversed, that economic efficiency can be overcome by political will, and that knowledge can be contained to one country. More and deeper international economic and political entaglements are inevitable. How can an adversarial relationship with one of the most advanced countries with abundant production and labor capacity help anything? Economic nationalism and high tech are incompatible.

wolvesechoes 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> What's short-sighted and naive is believing that globalism can be reversed, that economic efficiency can be overcome by political will, and that knowledge can be contained to one country

Peak ideology.

> Economic nationalism and high tech are incompatible

Except in China?

t-3 13 hours ago | parent [-]

China's internal economy is sluggish and has always underperformed. They rode the wave of industrialization, but production started moving away to cheaper locales years ago. Their rising standard of living hasn't come with the increased demand that makes the US consumer market so powerful. Technological advances and demand for cheap labor will pull up all the underdeveloped countries the same way as China.

China cannot produce high technology without inputs from all over the world. NOBODY can! That's what I mean when I say that nationalism and tech are incompatible. Free trade and transparent borders make technological progress faster, arbitrary restrictions and impediments to trade impede it. The knowledge that underlies the technological advances must be spread in order to produce future technologies, so it will be spread. There is no way to hold back the process of technological advance without destroying humanity itself, and so there's no way to keep technology locked in one nation, no way to maintain an eternal advantage.

like_any_other a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> economic efficiency can be overcome by political will

It was political will that created that economic efficiency, that you're now trying to convince us is just a fact of nature.

> Economic nationalism and high tech are incompatible.

China is economically (and traditionally) nationalist - that's why they subsidize and protect their important industries: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49421633