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mns 42 minutes ago

> They also do not introduce these regulations "from tomorrow"

This wasn't introduced "from tomorrow", people had 1 year and a half to prepare for this (at least) or to protest this. See some comments below how individual countries actually messed this up.

> But of course EU is fundamentally different in a way that the politicians need to please the electorate, so nothing is really planned ahead.

> I don't know if this EU regulation will work or not (most likely not)

It's good that you take the time to just make assumptions about how the EU is bad based on your knowledge on how it operates...

formerly_proven 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's yet another EU regulation that requires a rep for each EU country or you're not allowed to do business. EU single market is a bad joke at this point.

akie 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

People here REALLY love to complain about the EU.

Do you understand what the EU even is?

Imagine trying to create a single set of laws to apply to all of the countries in North and South America at the same time. Just try to imagine it, because that's about as close an analogy as you're going to get. Now re-evaluate your criticism in that light, and understand that comparing a single state to a collection of 27 states is more or less a non-sequitur.

ericmay 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Imagine trying to create a single set of laws to apply to all of the countries in North and South America at the same time.

I actually think it would be quite a bit easier than it is to create the EU. There's a lot more broad cultural homogeneity between the countries in the Americas than there is within Europe. Even on the topic of language you've got the vast majority of all peoples speaking some combination of Spanish, English, and Portuguese. And Latin America has a bit more limited geopolitical concerns than Europe does which makes managing some tensions easier than it might otherwise be.

But I'm not sure why you are considering "it's hard to create the EU" to be a defense against complaints or criticism related to the EU itself. Maybe it's hard and it won't work and the criticism is reflecting that and others are pointing out that it's a flawed task to begin with for some number of reasons. For my own part I think it has been a fascinating topic and a remarkable accomplishment of statesmanship to even get the EU to this stage, albeit like anything there are some very valid drawbacks.

r3trohack3r 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

America does it with 50 states

bryanlarsen 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That analogy would hold only if inter-state commerce was the responsibility of the states rather than the federal government.

deno 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

And EU does it with VAT-OSS which was also separate in each country before. There's just no will to do this with EPR because there's too much money and lobbying power in the recycling cartel.

deno 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean that's what the PPWR directive is already? It's a single set of laws that applies to all member states. They just didn't write any interop.

marky1991 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, obviously we wouldn't try to do that. Our laws, cultures, and priorities are wildly different. By this lens, the main problem seems to be that the eu expanded too much and grew too large to actually have a coherent purpose.

janderson215 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

gpjanik 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

"people had 1 year to protest this" this is terminal stage subjugation to bureaucrats