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a2ff6eeb0 an hour ago

I think the base requirement to compete will keep going up. We already have AI models that can debug and audit code better than the best humans.

You used to have a career as a software engineer or devops person if you were good at debugging. Today, I challenge you to take any past production outages, toss the traces into Claude Fable, and see if it finds the bug faster than humans can.

I think this is the way the rest of white collar labor goes.

pigpop an hour ago | parent | next [-]

For some roles, I agree but I also think that there will be many new-ish roles that will have lower requirements right down to being a warm body capable of walking and talking. The lower requirements will be possible because these roles will essentially be proxies for AI agents that need a human to go somewhere and do something in the physical world, whether that's resetting a breaker or just being a human face and voice delivering a message.

And yes, before anyone brings it up, I've read Manna and if you haven't you probably should[0] but I don't think it will be as dystopian or utopian as that. Humanoid robots would obviously replace some of the proxy need but there will still be a lot of things that only a living human can do even if it's just purely for legal and regulatory reasons.

I also think there will be a lot more roles that are purely human in nature and which will have an entirely different set of requirements but that's a different topic.

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20120224063109/http://marshallbr...

a2ff6eeb0 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

Of course. For a great deal of software, the main skills needed are vaguely speaking the jargon so you can understand Claude, and doing manual debugging.

pydry an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ive dealt with tons of bugs Claude couldnt recognize. Have you not?

a2ff6eeb0 an hour ago | parent [-]

Honestly? Not really, not since Fable came out. There's been a bunch of times it needed to ask for context, and I needed to deploy some additional tracing at its request.

(There have been a few times where it has refused to debug due to safeguards. This is actually the biggest problem.)

devmor an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> We already have AI models that can debug and audit code better than the best humans.

I'd love to see one someday.

a2ff6eeb0 an hour ago | parent [-]

Did you try my suggested experiment? Which issues did Fable take longer than a human to diagnose once you started to describe the symptoms?