If I smooshed a gun and an AI agent together and it happened to shoot someone, who would be responsible? Are we going to go back to the medieval times of animal trials and taking inanimate objects to court?

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RunSet an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> In civil forfeiture, assets are seized by police based on a suspicion of wrongdoing, and without having to charge a person with specific wrongdoing, with the case being between police and the thing itself, sometimes referred to by the Latin term in rem, meaning "against the property"; the property itself is the defendant and no criminal charge against the owner is needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United...

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throw7373738 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We had many precedents with dog as autonomous agent, and lack of responsibility from their owners.

If your gun kills random people, while they walk on public street... It was their fault for "provoking" and triggering the gun. Gun was just being "reactive" and defending your house!

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watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You would be responsible.

It is like asking "if I connected a bomb on random number generator letting it explode when the number is 1000, not knowing whether someone will be there at the time of explosion or not".

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ninalanyon an hour ago | parent [-]

But will the courts see it that way. We already see that it is difficult to hold any human in Waymo responsible when their cars fail to obey traffic regulations.

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SoftTalker 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

A human at Waymo would likely not be found responsible, except if actual negligence or intent could be traced to that person. Waymo the corporation would be responsible, if their vehicles caused damage or injury. For traffic violations, presumably they could be fined, or even their permission to operate could be revoked if there are persistent problems.

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bbarn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I live in a rural area and have only seen a Waymo a few times when travelling for work. Does Waymo require the user to have a driver's license? If they did, and get agreement of responsibility, that's one thing, but generally if not wouldn't it be Waymo's responsibility for bad programming or broken devices?

	▲	c22 29 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It doesn't look like that's a requirement: https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/9197501
	▲	pclmulqdq 35 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		They don’t need a license and you are not supposed to touch the controls, so I don’t really see how you would be responsible. Waymos do seem to break traffic laws every once in a while, and I always wonder if mine will get pulled over and what will happen there.

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lukeschlather 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The human isn't the one responsible for the traffic violation, Waymo is. Could you give an example where a Waymo committed a traffic violation and they weren't cited?