The world collectively had so much trade barriers for US goods and services and still has. They just weren’t direct like tariffs.

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blitzar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> trade barriers for US goods and services

are the trade barriers in the room with us?

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disgruntledphd2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To be fair, EU standards prevent the sale of lots of US products so that point, while misleading, is not entirely incorrect.

	▲	Frieren an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> prevent the sale of lots of US products Not only USA products. Most countries with low safety standards and known for dangerous products are barred from trading with the EU, or at least many of their products. Recently, even big Chinese on-line shops are being targeted for selling dangerous products and lying on the description on that products. I understand that quality and safety is a diminishing goal for the USA. But I hope that other countries keep the care for their citizens as a achievable goal. > is not entirely incorrect With enough re-interpretation nothing is not entirely incorrect. Agree on the part that it is misleading.
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	▲	surgical_fire an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That is not a trade barrier, that is just what you call "food" across the pond is actually trash.

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fatbird 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the softwood lumber dispute that's been going on for decades, the US raised (legitimately) the point that in Canada, land is granted by permit to loggers for only nominal fees; in the U.S. loggers have to pay significant amounts for rights to log. This is effectively a gov't subsidy to Canadian loggers by comparison with American loggers, allowing Canadian loggers to sell softwoods at a lower price.

This is the difficulty with discussing "trade barriers": things that are simply handled differently in different countries can be (arguably) economic factors that discriminate against one side or the other, hence they're trade barriers. Complicating it further, one can create barriers that have plausible deniability, or point to unrelated factors and scream "TRADE BARRIER".

I know someone who was involved for a while in the softwood lumber discussions. Just an absolute snake pit trying to suss out what are real barriers, intended barriers, relevant inputs... and all of this in the context of negotiations over the same, so everything is also "does he mean this or is he distracting us from something else or just building up a talking point to surrender later?"

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ben_w an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> are the trade barriers in the room with us?

Yes. And I'm saying this in the EU.

e.g. Ein Beispiel ist die verschiedene Sprache.

Although perhaps German is one of the stranger cases, given that I've seen the English phrase "Made in Germany" on some political posters around here: https://www.cdu.de/aktuelles/cdu-deutschlands/mainzer-erklae...

This is also a problem for trade between EU member states.

There's other examples of course, e.g. the Cybertruck is not road legal in the EU. Though I can hardly say that's "in the room" given how unpopular the vehicle is even in the USA.

	▲	blitzar a few seconds ago \| parent [-]
		Foreigners not speaking American is unfair? Honestly if that is the best you can come up with, please try a lot harder.

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dpc050505 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Having guardrails against diarrhea lettuce is just reasonable policy.

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fatbird 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The U.S. also has a huge amount of trade barriers that are indirect against the rest of the world. Don't act like the U.S. is the victim here.

One example: In Canada, there's a vibrant french language film industry, meaning films in french that originate and are made in Canada and then marketed abroad. The english language equivalent is anemic because decades ago, as part of trade negotiations, the Canadian gov't gutted subsidies for english language film production as a trade barrier against Hollywood.