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bilbo0s 3 hours ago

>and reasonable energy price

Nice Jedi Hand Wave there.

That's the issue.

China invested in producing cheap energy. Most of the rest of the world did not.

At root, economics is about turning energy into goods and services. If the root industrial input of your competitor is cheaper than the cost of that same root industrial input to you, you're gonna need some incredible efficiencies elsewhere in that production pipeline to pull even.

At this point, the EU should be all about keeping the other major powers at arm's length, (economically and militarily), while pursuing renewable electrification with all deliberate speed.

That should be everyone else' strategy going forward as well by the way. Without cheap energy in the next global economic phase, your nation or bloc is dead in the water.

WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have close the zero faith that the EU would be able to make the cultural changes necessary to move to self dependance.

Especially with being well behind in the current AI arms race. You need the opposite of a "workers utopia" to do all the things the EU needs to do, and do them fast.

They either stay with the US or become a vassal of Xi Jinpeng.

AlexandrB 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> China invested in producing cheap energy.

You mean coal[1][2]?

[1] https://www.carbonbrief.org/chinas-construction-of-new-coal-...

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/katharinabuchholz/2026/02/27/ch...

forestrywat 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Did the parent say clean energy or cheap energy? Obviously yes, coal.

Though coal has dropped as a percentage of their portfolio fairly dramatically, and in absolute twh has been stable since 2010, with other energy sources growing.

Supermancho 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These two things (investment in green energy and coal) can be true at the same time.

China dominates global clean energy investment, accounting for more than half of the $1.1 trillion invested worldwide between 2019 and 2025, while the United States contributed approximately $236 billion, representing less than a quarter of the total. - https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/energy/articles/china-spen...

forestrywat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No idea why you got flagged here, you've pretty clearly said reasonable things.

Supermancho 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I've even clicked the flag link by accident. I don't take it personally, regardless of the outcome.