| ▲ | fidotron 4 hours ago |
| There is also the factor that Canada has been propping up unsustainable dead end industries on a massive scale for years, and that this will make any pain from such a situation, deal or no deal, that much worse. Most obviously Southern Ontario is living in a dreamland where inexplicably ICE autos remain a viable industry ad infinitum. Some forced reality, by any means, will in the long run prove to be welcome. |
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| ▲ | ipaddr 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| That will continue with only cars made in Canada not having Canadian tariffs. You make 100,000 cars in Canada everything above that amount is subject to tariffs. |
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| ▲ | halostatue 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The last ~60 years have been a process by which the North American auto industry has been so heavily integrated that there is no such thing as a car made entirely in one country or another, especially in the Detroit–Windsor corridor. Canada has manufacturers that the US doesn't (and won't for at least 5 years) and vice-versa. |
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| ▲ | win311fwg 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Autos are more obvious than the dairy industry, even though Trump claimed a couple of days ago that the reason there was an imminent deal is because Canada allegedly agreed to eliminate dairy tariffs? Trade negotiations have stalled almost certainly because Canada isn't actually willing to give up dairy tariffs. |
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| ▲ | fidotron 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Plausible. The Quebec PM did say that if the dairy industry wasn't happy they wouldn't put US alcohol badk on the shelves, which would have effectively killed the whole thing. While a factor I doubt this is the whole story though. | | |
| ▲ | win311fwg 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > While a factor I doubt this is the whole story though. No story can be told in a HN comment. No story can be fully told in words. However, having spent much of my existence around the Canadian diary industry it is clear that it has always been the biggest sticking point in US and Canada relations. Not just today, but that's been the case for my entire life. |
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| ▲ | dmix 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The dairy cartel is very strong in Canada (similar to the maple syrup one). They are deeply embedded in the government. It'd be like trying to convince the US to reduce their Corn cartel. Except the corn industry keeps prices low, paid for by the American tax payer and demand mandates, and the Dairy cartel keeps prices high so consumers pay for the lack of competition. | |
| ▲ | bethekidyouwant an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | how is this guy downvoted? you have never been able to buy American milk in canada. and Canadian softwood lumber has been tariffed at a high rate for my entire lifetime. these have been points of contention since at least the 80s. | | |
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| ▲ | win311fwg an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > you have never been able to buy American milk in canada. That’s not really true. The US has 5% of the quota, tarrif free. Which they don’t even fully use. But, to be sure, it does get used. You absolutely can buy American milk products in Canada. The problem is that they have to go through the processors to satisfy the processors' own quotas so by and large the meager 5% isn’t worth the operational complexity vs just buying milk locally for the processors. The US wants to be able to go directly to the grocery stores. | | |
| ▲ | bethekidyouwant 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It’s neat that you had to write two paragraphs to explain how complicated the import restrictions are when the reality is if you go to the grocery store there’s no American milk never has been never will be. | | |
| ▲ | win311fwg 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It’s a cool story but one only has to go to Statistics Canada/Agri-food Canada to see exactly how much US milk is imported into Canada. Hint: it is substantially more than none. | | |
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