Canada will match US tariffs 'dollar for dollar' as trade talks break down

ElProlactin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Art of the deal strikes again.

epolanski 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This administration has a thing for being really vicious with the closest allies.

It really feels strange, odd, yet unsurprising that the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism.

	▲	hermitcrab 6 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Trump projects his greed and selfishness onto everyone else. So doesn't understand that there can be such a thing as a win-win relationship.
	▲	lostlogin 23 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> the US is going from a globalist leadership to selfish nationalism. It’s worse than that. This doesn’t suit the US. It suits Trump (or at least, that’s what his addled mind thinks).

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conartist6 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Very good yesterday, very bad today. I understand completely why nations are not eager to bargain with a petulant child

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sandworm101 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"That's like a toddler with a harpoon. There's a toddler wandering around in that office with a harpoon." The Thick of It s4e2.

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epolanski 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is more long lasting. The world cannot accommodate 180 degree turns every 4 years in Washington.

So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

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toast0 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

At least the timing of the turns is predictable... I imagine working with countries with snap elections is harder, especially when they have trouble forming a government.

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biorach 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You might think. The UK would be the most prominent example and in fact has been a much more predictable and consistent trading and negotiating partner than the USA

	▲	philipallstar 16 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The UK hasn't really changed, regardless of who's in charge, in 20 years. Because it's mostly run by the state and not by the politicians.
	▲	mschuster91 12 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> The UK would be the most prominent example and in fact has been a much more predictable and consistent trading and negotiating partner than the USA European here: Oh hell no. The Brexit breakup drama was years of chaos with each of the braindead Prime Ministers somehow managing to make things worse.

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epolanski 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

No, why would that be?

That's the reality of most mature democracies from UK to Germany to Italy.

If anything, that makes change slower and based on coalition consensus, not a single winner-take-all individual mood.

Which means that there isn't much to "work" as previous arrangements keep holding and they hardly change.

I would never exchange our democracy for a king electing one like in US, Turkey or Russia.

I'd rather have our democracies slower, the governments more unstable, but representative.

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mschuster91 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> So anybody that will follow, regardless of the person's policies won't matter fully, as that person itself will be replaced 4-8 years later.

There is only one chance the US has - they need to do what us Germans were forced to post-1945, rearchitect everything.

The US and UK are the only major countries that didn't undergo some sort of revolution, war or other reset of their constitution and legal systems and it shows everywhere.

If we Europeans (or anyone else) are supposed to ever trust the US again, we demand they properly fix their shit and prevent another madman's rise for good.

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juliusceasar 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Meanwhile Israel is sucking USA empty and they call out Canada for being not "fair".

What a sick people.

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sandworm101 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is a good thing canadians are so nice. Dropping US alcohol is a tiny thing compared to some of the weapons canada might deploy. Look at all the back-and-forth deals in recent years and you will see an exemption for oil and potash. Think gas prices are high now? See what happens if canada starts shipping less crude. Think food prices are high? See what happens when there is no fertilizer because canada has restricted potash exports. And what will make Musk's head explode: canada is starting to allow cheap chinese EVs into north america. Canadians will be driving them around the US very soon.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/dispatches/how-to-secure-the...

> US mines produce roughly 500,000 metric tons of potash per year, only about 8 percent of the 5.9 million metric tons of apparent annual US consumption. The remaining demand is met through imports, producing a net import reliance of about 92 percent. Reflecting the high concentration of global potash production, most of that supply comes from Canada (79 percent), with smaller volumes from Russia (12 percent) and other producers (9 percent) including Israel.

	▲	thangalin 8 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The sentiment here is that nobody wants U.S. citizens to be negatively impacted by trade restrictions or tariffs. We are figuratively and, in many cases, literally friends and family. (Aside, even if our provincial governments allow southern booze back on shelves, it'll stay there.) It would be decidedly un-Canadian to leverage electricity, potash, or other commodities necessary for survival in trade negotiations -- despite what Ford may suggest. We're nice, but we won't bow to bullies. Elbows up, eh!
	▲	thijson 19 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's a slow moving train wreck. I hope the consequences of these petulant actions scar the minds of voters for years to come. We're seeing the yield on treasuries creeping up, I think that's one of the consequences.

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woggy 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Meanwhile Trump is pushing to rekindle his love affair with Kim Jong Un.