I don't know. Since the advent of cameras we've caught a lot of cops beating the hell out of citizens. It probably happened a lot more before cameras. And then you'd catch a charge for resisting instead of the payout today.

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estearum 2 days ago | parent [-]

Let's play this out: Cops don't exist. On video, you catch a person beating the hell out of a citizen.

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Welp, sucks to get the shit beaten out of you, better luck next time.

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treis 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I don't understand your point

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estearum 2 days ago | parent [-]

You responded "I don't know, sometimes cameras catch cops beating people up" to the statement: "It is better to have cops than cameras."

If you have no cops, the cameras don't mean anything. It is now de facto legal for big people to beat up smaller people. Your cameras mean nothing. You can now film yourself getting beaten up every single day forever, and congrats, there's nothing to be done about it because there's no apparatus of the state to physically protect you.

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treis 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'm responding to the idea that police in the absence of flock is totally fine.

	▲	estearum 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		It is empirically the case that societies have been perfectly capable of thriving while having police... If you understood my comment to mean "police are perfect", then I must've been unclear. That's not my position and not a position I'm interested in defending or discussing.

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wredcoll 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You did it! You burned the strawman! Gold star!