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xnorswap 4 hours ago

I would disagree with that, I've seen people anchor their own identity to that of brands like Apple or Disney.

They may not be aesthetics you find cool, but clearly they appeal to a large number of others.

devin 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Anchoring your identity to brands is tragically uncool no matter how you slice it.

zer00eyz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This comment feels like it's from the early 90's when people were being critical of bands for selling out.

BaseBaal 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reminds me of Tool's reaction to that trend, "Hooker with a Penis"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooker_with_a_Penis

InsideOutSanta 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AKA the good old times when it wasn't as culturally accepted to be openly evil if it made money.

BoingBoomTschak 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is there something wrong with being critical of bands for selling out, though?

bryanrasmussen an hour ago | parent [-]

the concept of selling out often seems seriously under-specified, and thus, like many things in our society, it becomes a tool for one set of people to improve their own status by attacking another set of people.

It is in the end a moral stance on what are the proper aesthetics, which is the kind of thing that manages to make both morality and aesthetics extremely suspect.

antonvs 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a very different situation. An individual "anchoring their identity" to a brand isn't doing so to earn money, which is why bands "sell out". It's just a choice they make about who they are, and I have to agree with GP that that seems tragically uncool.

thwarted 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Except this is being critical of the popularity and fans, not the band.

cocacola1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They might be then only ones. Cult of Mac, Disney Adults, etc. But they’ve aesthetics that resonate with a lot of people. Meta, Google, etc., for whatever reason, don’t.

Apocryphon an hour ago | parent [-]

Product/design-first vs. engineering-first orgs

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple is the only big tech company with a decent aesthetic tho.