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walthamstow 7 hours ago

It's such a sad indictment of Anthropic's product that so many people hate interacting with it. Claude is on its way to the Microsoft Teams zone of hatred.

matheusmoreira 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's pretty sad indeed. Switching to other models made me notice how weird and verbose Claude was.

The moralizing is incredibly obnoxious as well. It didn't seem so bad at first, but it instantly became intolerable the second I remembered I was paying for those tokens.

demibabs 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Moralizing? Can you expand on that

matheusmoreira 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Sometimes Fable doesn't just get downgraded to Opus, it straight up refuses to do what I'm asking and starts lecturing me on Anthropic's notions of right and wrong. Cutting the model off wasn't enough, they had to make it burn the limited usage I paid for lecturing me on why it's immoral for it to code review my own project or whatever.

jayers 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think it would happen with any persona that Anthropic chose. I enjoyed the bouncy, optimistic style at first. I've since grown to hate it.

dominotw 7 hours ago | parent [-]

how do they infuse this personality? do they train the human feedback providers with a certain personality?

nozzlegear 6 hours ago | parent [-]

If we assume the personalities come from human feedback, it would have to be some unholy amalgamation of those feedback providers right?

esafak 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They should run a focus group!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C08WmKiwcSs

cmrdporcupine 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anthropic has explicitly chosen to anthropomorphize the model. It's kind of in their mission statement. It's most noticed once you walk away for a while and use models/agents/harnesses that haven't pushed as hard on this. Codex/Sol rarely uses personal pronouns and basically no superlatives. It has its own verbal ticks, but I hate them less?