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Animats 3 hours ago

"Onset of acute schizophrenia, or a genuine mystic revelation, or is there a difference?"

That's a great insight.

pingou 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Could you explain? A genuine mystic revelation would mean, in my opinion, something that cannot be explained by the laws of physics. Acute schizophrenia would mean the exact opposite.

On the other hand if we broaden the meaning of mystic revelation, a "light" mystic revelation, like being in awe in front of nature for example, would have nothing to do with acute schizophrenia.

echelon_musk 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

> A genuine mystic revelation would mean, in my opinion, something that cannot be explained by the laws of physics

Exactly this can happen, whilst also being labelled schizophrenia.

pingou 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes but it would mean that the following two are both right, if there really is no difference between a genuine mystic revelation and schizophrenia:

- There exists something that cannot be explained by the law of physics

- a schizophrenia label is always caused by genuine mystic revelation

I wasn't under the impression that the quote meant that a genuine mystic revelation would be labelled as schizophrenia, if that was what the quote meant, that doesn't seem like a great hindsight or particularly deep observation to me.

germandiago 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A great insight? Where is the insight if there is no way to know?

Objectively speaking, you end up exactly the same way you started.

It is as if I said: oh, the app hangs: infinite loop or crash and frozen? It is one or the other, but never both. Yet you do not know if there is no way for further inspection.

echelon_musk 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

The insight is not into either state but toward the relation of the states.