Let’s be clear: if the CIA was doing it, then it was not overt and obvious. It was secret manipulation.

Is that the kind of government intervention that you want to get?

As a general rule, probably not ...

But if I had my druthers, I'd rather the CIA was "manipulating" us more often by subsidizing jazz artists rather than funnelling cash and prisoners to torture sites in El Salvador.

You dig?

	▲	tharmas a few seconds ago \| parent [-]
		Two Thumbs up! It's time more people fully understood the meaning of "I don't care what color the Cat is, as long as it catches the Mouse".

▲

mannanj an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

[flagged]

▲

Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> deep state actors

Can we please not do this here? Can we please not vaguely gesticulate towards some government bogeyman anytime our comments are downvoted or flagged or just because we see something we don’t agree with?

To quote Sesame Street: One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn’t belong.

	▲	hulitu 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> Can we please not do this here? Why ? The quality of HN has decreased due to those paid propaganda spreaders. People shall have a minimum of spine.

▲

john_strinlai an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

if you have anyone specific in mind, you should email hn@ycombinator.com

if you dont have anyone specific in mind, this comment does nothing except "FUD"

edit: really, getting downvoted into oblivion for this? baseless and general accusations of deepstate actors is really what we want the comment sections of hn to be?

▲

enragebait an hour ago | parent [-]

Absolutely certainly true.

You’re naive if think there is an intelligence organization in the world who can log into the internet who doesn’t scrape analyze and opinionate over the intellectual bastion which is HN.

▲

john_strinlai 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

baseless and generally-applicable accusations of deepstate activity are worthless as a comment.

that does not mean i dont think governments, corps, etc. aren't scraping data or even attempting to shape narrative. but i dont want to read general, non-actionable, vague comments about deepstate actors while browsing hn.

comments like that are not interesting, they don't pique curiosity, they don't promote good conversation, and there's nothing to learn from them.

they are a net negative on hn.

	▲	hulitu 7 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> there's nothing to learn from them. Some people never learn. When the "police" is at their door, it is too late.