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ivanjermakov 4 hours ago

Not sure if they still do, but a couple years ago prices in the app were lower than on the website. And they promoted installing it to save money.

wongarsu 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I believe the prices are the same. But the app has a number of "games" to collect tokens that get credited as discounts. Seems to be mostly stuff designed to get you to open the app daily and browse their offers. Which might be "innocent" if it's just to get you to buy more stuff, or maybe they have more reasons they want you to have the app open. Who knows

At least Aliexpress doesn't have all the fake slot machine type games that temu has that always end in variations of "get $200 of discounts for your next order if you order x items from this list"

ornornor 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There are few things more scammy than AliExpress “discounts”. I have yet to see a cent of the hundreds of dollars of “savings” they gave or advertised to me.

phoghed an hour ago | parent [-]

Very true, I almost never use Ali Express because I have no clue what anything is going to cost until I get to roughly the final step of checking out.

imzadi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They also don't give you a proper tracking number. The only way to track your shipment is in the app.

jhoechtl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is not correct. I do not have the app and get tracking for my orders.

imzadi 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I get email updates but whenever I click the track link it tells me I need the app.

ssl-3 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I have a package on the way with AliExpress. It is headed from somewhere in China to somewhere in the US.

Using my computer just now, I looked at one of the emails that AliExpress sent about this order. It had a clickable tracking number displayed; I clicked it.

That brought me to their website, where I landed on a page that included the last update for my order and also a link to "View Details".

That works for me. It was very easy to where along the line my stuff is (and that it is not in the US yet).

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Meanwhile: I also copied the tracking number from the email. I pasted that tracking number into the box at usps.com.

The USPS knows of my tracking number and they do not have my item yet. Fair enough.

I ticked some boxes and told them to send me updates, which I'm sure they'll do once they have updates to send -- just as they have done for ~decades now.

This also works for me.

KennyBlanken an hour ago | parent [-]

Many sites will work fine in a desktop browser but refuse to do anything in a mobile browser, demanding you install their app or just immediately redirecting you to the iOS or Android app store.

MobiusHorizons 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It does show a popup to that effect, but if you dismiss it you can still see the tracking info. Definitely annoying, but not unworkable.

tjoff 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If on mobile, ticking "desktop mode" in your browser usually goes around that dark pattern.

wongarsu an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Depends on the shipping company, and likely on your location. I get tracking numbers for most but not all shipments

ahofmann 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Now we know why...

coldtea 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And someone would install random apps to save $5 on $100 purchases?

fckgw 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"random apps" and it's the largest eCommerce company on the planet

imzadi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I did customer tech support for a major retailer, we had confused customers calling all the time because they would randomly get price-match refunds they never asked for. They were installing apps that were automatically requesting the refunds by searching their emails for orders and checking the prices on the websites. These people had no idea they had even given these apps permission to read their emails.

ivanjermakov 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You'd be surprised on what general public can go to save $5.

vlachen 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean, I'm haunted by the things I did for a Klondike Bar.

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account42 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

eBay keeps pushing their app with a $5 discount, advertised using a focus-stealing popup interrupting your attempt to give them money, so some people must be taking the bait.

MallocVoidstar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's still the case that you pay less in the app. You get 'coins' for a daily check-in, which are automatically(?) applied as a discount. Most items either don't actually use them or only give you a pointless 1% off or something, but I've gotten a $12 microcontroller for $5, for example. I think some coupons are app-only, too (though most aliexpress sales are fake and are better thought of as the normal price).

stackghost 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>You get 'coins' for a daily check-in, which are automatically(?) applied as a discount.

This should be illegal

rigrassm 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Not sure if they still do, but a couple years ago prices in app were lower than on the website. And they promoted installing it to save money.

Translation: They are able to mine your personal data more completely with an app installed vs the website which they can sell for pure profit. They promoted installing it to extract more value from you.

swores 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's definitely a feasible explanation (and the one I would assume to be true for AliExpress).

But there is another, slightly less evil, explanation that I know at least some companies have pushed their apps because of: the thinking is that if you're on their website, there is less friction to open a new tab and search for a lower price from their competitors, than if you're in their app. Obviously it's hardly any different - opening a new app (the web browser) vs. opening a new tab in the app you're already in - but the theory is that there's a slight psychological difference.

Of course I'm not saying that trying to prevent your customers from searching for better deals is a nice thing to do. Just adding that data mining isn't the only reason for some companies to want people to use their apps.

WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It also all goes to the party, who are the owners of Alibaba (and every other company in China).

Should you ever need someone in a foreign country to do something for you, it's good to have as much information as possible at your disposal about them.